Talk:Orient

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This piece is editted from several articles which I wrote for Wikipedia and were later gutted by liberal ... er ... NPOV minds at Wikipedia. I encourage others to edit and augment the work. I did all the research here and it's pretty well documented. Perhaps one of the open-ended links will inspire you to start a new page. Everwill 07:48, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

You are aware the copying from wikipedia, even your own work is heavily frowned upon, right? Myk 15:15, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
Myk, his version is no longer the current version at Wikipedia. Plus, what, other than his own words, would you have him write? If this is truly his own work, I see no problem with him contributing it to Conservapedia. --<<-David R->> 15:17, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
Unless he did a complete rewrite of the article, then the underlying version that he edited is under the GFDL. --Mtur 15:26, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
There have been issues when people wanted to copy their own articles from CreationWiki over to here. If I remember correctly, Andy stated that he wants people to be original and not to re-use such material. Of course, quite a few rules seem to have changed recently and implicitly (such as the "Do not copy from non-public-domain sources" rule or the "you can post opinions on Talk pages"/"Conservapedia supports free speech" rule), so the current rules might make the exception you state. --Sid 3050 15:28, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

Reading up a bit (frowned upon), I know of no such policy. I specifically invited Everwill to come here and bring his writings with him. The quibble about copying GFDL text applies to derived works - not to the original author. --Ed Poor 13:51, 6 April 2007 (EDT)

It's one of our many unwritten "rules" that developed on some Talk page somewhere and never made it into an official document (even though the first commandment sorta covers it - and no, I won't go into semantics there). Just like there are no official policies (to my knowledge) about template creation/usage and article unlocking (to name two recent examples that are now merrily enforced (sometimes with temp-bans)).
I'll be honest - I'd have to look for quite a while to point at a statement by Andy about this, but I'm fairly certain it exists. Want me to look? --Sid 3050 14:39, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
  • "That said, there is little point in wholesale copying of material from another Wiki into Conservapedia. What would that accomplish? Let's try to be original here.--Aschlafly" - User_talk:Aschlafly/Archive1#CreationWiki
  • This, on the other hand, contradicts those... now all we need is that everwill was the sole contributor to that version of the page. That's a difficult task. "I think you're free to contribute your own material to multiple places however you like. You don't waive any rights to copy your own material. Your welcome to submit anything here that you've written and submitted elsewhere also, without changing one word of it. I look forward to seeing it.--Aschlafly 21:34, 12 March 2007 (EDT)" - User_talk:Aschlafly/Archive2#Dual_submissions_here_and_at_CreationWiki

Everything you post must be true and verifiable. Do not copy from Wikipedia or other non-public domain sources. - Commandment 1, while clear and concise, has yet again proven slightly deficient in the detail category. Myk 00:05, 7 April 2007 (EDT)