Talk:Steve Bannon

So... what do we do with this page in light of Bannon's recent comments about Donald Trump Jr.? --Unsigned comment by User:Geopolitician

We should just wait and see what happens.

I don't think there's any doubt that Bannon is very committed to the conservative-nationalist-populist agenda. The issue, I think, is more about whether he is trying to accomplish it the right way. Maybe Bannon is making a mistake in distancing himself from Trump, as Trump is the real driving force behind the nationalist movement right now, and because he could choose to align himself with the GOP establishment, ensuring the continuing rise of globalism. However, I so see Bannon as a "true believer", sort of like Pat Buchanan, while Trump is more like the imperfect executor who has real power but only accomplishes part of what Bannon/Buchanan were hoping. The incident we saw is no reason to abandon Bannon. --1990'sguy (talk) 12:35, 4 January 2018 (EST)

But accusing Donald Jr. of treasonous activity regarding Russia in the middle of the Mueller probe? That doesn't sound like something a "true believer" would do.

I have several theories as to why Bannon did this, and perhaps you can give your opinion on them.

• (1) Bannon is a hot-tempered guy. We all know this. Perhaps he made those statements out of anger and frustration with what he sees as a mission not having any progress.

• (2) Bannon has discovered new information regarding the meeting between Donald Jr. and the Russian lawyer that gives him the impression that Donald Jr. and others may be collaborating with entities allied with the globalists. And Trump either does not know, does not care because he wants to protect his son, or is in fact controlled opposition whose only real purpose is to empower the globalists through insufficient action.

• (3) Bannon decided to sever ties with Trump by playing #NeverTrump to save both his life and Trump’s, following a series of threats against them by the globalists.

• (4) This entire feud is a ruse. More 4-D chess/Trump trolling. Trump and Bannon are pretending to be enemies to trick the globalists in leaving them alone, so they will have the strength to team up again and take them out for good when the time is right.

• (5) Bannon was controlled opposition the whole time. His sole purpose was to discredit the anti-globalist movement and ensure that President Trump shifts to the left out of revulsion. -- Geopolitician (talk) 20:10, 4 January 2018 (EST)

Bannon appears to have made these statements while he was still in the White House. I think this piece of info is key because it shows this is a relatively old statement -- a lot has passed since he made that comment, and he has made many pro-Trump statements since then. I think theory #1 is the best explanation of the ones you presented. It's understandable why someone would get so mad when having to deal with people like McMaster, Cohn, Javanka, and Tillerson. A true believer would be very angry to see these liberals hijack Trump's agenda. IMO, it's a repeat of 1964-66 and 1988 all over again. Bannon's comments seem to be old comments that are now coming back to haunt him.

Options #4 and #5 are ridiculous in my opinion. I think it's clear that this is not some ruse, and Bannon is clearly who he says he is on policy. And no, we can't blame Bannon for the whole Roy Moore thing -- besides, Moore was already the GOP nominee when the allegations came out. It's ridiculous to act as if they were known during the primaries. At worse, Bannon chose the best of two bad choices, and the establishment refused to accept the primary's outcome and relished the allegations.

It seems to me that the hijacking of the Trump-Bannon movement is already well underway. Just like with Goldwater and Reagan, the establishment is succeeding in ensuring that America First nationalists remain marginalized while it takes care not to distence itself from Trump himself. That strategy never fails, and we're in danger of continuing the slide toward socialism and one-world government. --1990'sguy (talk) 21:39, 4 January 2018 (EST)

Trump is again starting to think positively of Bannon, based on a short comment in a recent NYT interview -- "And yet Bannon, now, if you’ve seen him on an interview over the last six months, I think there’s nobody that speaks better."[1] --1990'sguy (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2019 (EDT)