Talk:United States dollar coins

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What's with the whole "In God We Trust" thing? I've seen emails circulating that suggest that it was deliberately left off, but it's actually written around the rim of the coin. At the very least, the statement needs a citation. --John 22:59, 7 March 2007 (EST)

A run of the coins was struk without the required phrase "In God We Trust". --Lukepossie 23:37, 7 March 2007 (EST) 

 Updated the submission with a link to a story regarding the missing phrasing --Lukepossie 23:52, 7 March 2007 (EST)

There is already an article on the new Washington dollar coin at: New Washington Coin. That article should be merged with this one. Since the new dollar coins will have other presidents than Washington on them, I think that article should be moved here since this one has a more generic title. Then sections on each of the US dollar coin series (SBA, Sacagawea, Presidents) should be listed. Dr. Richard Paley

Until a reliable citation can be located, the last paragraph should be struck. Nowhere have I seen it mentioned that this money may not be accepted as legal tender. Also, "IGWT" on US currency is not a Constitutional requirement, but a law passed as the 1965 Coinage Act.--Dave3172 12:42, 9 March 2007 (EST)

  • I agree. I've been checking:
    • The word "God" does not appear in the United States Constitution at all.
    • The Constitution does not contain the word "motto" or say anything about anything needing to appear on currency or coinage. It stays the individual states cannot "coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts;"
    • According to the Treasury, "In God We Trust" first appeared in 1864. It did not appear on nickels from 1883 until 1938. It did not become the national motto until 1956 and did not appear on paper money before then.

See the U. S. Treasury website for details. Dpbsmith 13:19, 9 March 2007 (EST)

I made New Washington coin a redirect as suggested. I didn't notice anything in that article that needed to be merged into this article; if I missed something from the old article, please add it. Dpbsmith 13:22, 9 March 2007 (EST)

(Not to belabor the obvious, but the suggestion that "these coins, which are being referred to as 'Godless Dollars', should be exchanged at a bank for properly struck coins" seems like a silly suggestion, anyway. Why not exchange them at the local coin shop for fifty dollars' worth of properly struck coins? None of these collectors' items is going to stay in circulation for very long. I can't see how exchanging them at a bank would be an effective protest. Even if it occurred on a large scale the main effect would be to drive up the value of the misstruck coins remaining in collectors' hands.) Dpbsmith 13:31, 9 March 2007 (EST)


Thanks, Dpbsmith; you made most of the changes I've been itching to make on this page.

One final question -- has anyone measured the height of "In God we Trust" on the previous coins? The page makes a big deal about the new ones having it "on the tiny edge of the coin (approximately 1/16th of an inch high)". I don't have a Sacagewa coin, but based on the highest resolution image I've been able to find and the apparent size of the coin (26.5mm), it looks to me like the "In God We Trust" lettering is about 1mm tall (5-6 pixels out of 150), about 1/25th of an inch. If that's accurate, then the new coins have it larger, not smaller. Jtl 22:39, 9 March 2007 (EST)

The article takes a bias to the new placement of "In God we Trust" on the coin. I feel the placement is irrelevant and actually prefer it on the edge of the coin as it gives a new depth of character to the coin and now "In God we Trust" can be seen no matter what face of the coin is facing up.--Elamdri 02:53, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

We've had dollar coins since 1794. There's no reason to confine this article to SBA and its derivatives. And so I begin an expansion.--All Fish Welcome 16:15, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

I added a number of facts from the Red Book. If interest in this article continues, I'll grab some of my other sources and develop it more.--All Fish Welcome 17:59, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
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