User talk:Ctown200

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ṬK/Admin/Talk 08:10, 9 May 2010 (EDT)

RE: this edit Ctown2000, this isn't Wikipedia where people post banners at the top of entries complaining about something or another. If you don't have the time to make something better, then don't post your view of how something should be changed. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly 16:54, 6 November 2010 (EDT)

I humbly ask you to reconsider. That page is irresponsibly too large; in fact it is more than four times larger than a page should be, according to the warning message on the top of the page. Until someone helps to trim it down, like I started, it will continue to get out of control. It's already very slow to load, and impossible to save: every time I edit the page the server times out.
I have asked numerous editors for help, and it seems no one is willing to do any work on it. I have two businesses to run, so I just don't have the time. At least on wikipedia they have groups of editors (projects) where you can ask for help and get it. I've asked a number of people here, and posted on the help desk, but nothing happens.
That banner is important, because otherwise people just add new junk to the page without considering the proper location for information. It is important that this article is cleaned up, as it's one of the starting points that people visit. We don't want them to see a mess, which it currently is. Ctown200 16:35, 8 November 2010 (EST)
You have two businesses to run, but you claim you don't have the time to trim an article? Yet you can find the time to make several complaints about the article's size and why others aren't doing it, as well as re-inserting a tag that was removed by Aschlafly? Karajou 17:00, 8 November 2010 (EST)
It takes a lot of time to go through each item and determine where it should belong, and to see if other biases fit into the same category. The existing pages that I broke out took me a couple weeks. Ctown200 20:35, 8 November 2010 (EST)
Wow, I'm impressed by how much you've already done on this. I'll see if I have time to look at it, though like you I may not be able to get much done due to IRL commitments vying for my attention. Well done. Toph 21:38, 8 November 2010 (EST)
Ctown200, even if I agreed with your complaints (and I don't), a banner is still an eyesore. Do you think we should put signs on people that shout out, "needs to learn more"? I don't think so.
Nobody wants to open an encyclopedia entry and see an uninformative banner. Visitors want to see insights here, and they do.--Andy Schlafly 23:52, 8 November 2010 (EST)
Well there should at least be HTML comments at the bottom of sections so people don't add stuff. Ctown200 13:35, 9 November 2010 (EST)

My suggestion

What you could do is to propose a new layout. The main one would be a disambiguation page of sorts, giving a history of the bias, what the results are, and so on; and this could lead to separate article pages devoted to subject, i.e. "Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Politics"; "Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Science"; "Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Humanities"; and so on. Karajou 17:06, 8 November 2010 (EST)

Have you not seen what is already done? This is exactly how the sub-articles are broken out. It takes a lot of time, so I want some help. Are you going to give it? Ctown200 20:35, 8 November 2010 (EST)
Now that you have a plan to work with, and from what I've seen, I think you're doing rather fine. Karajou 21:16, 8 November 2010 (EST)
A plan to work with? None of this was your idea; I had already broken the article into a number of sub articles. But I needed (and still need) more help. I need to get some sleep now. Please help out if you can. Ctown200 21:24, 8 November 2010 (EST)
  • By saying "a plan to work with", it seems pretty obvious that Karajou meant your own plan, as stated on the talk page, not his. The personal attack is what it was meant to be, a trolling drive-by attack. Godspeed to you. --ṬK/Admin/Talk 15:18, 9 November 2010 (EST)

Final note

We don't want them to see a mess, which it currently is. Ctown200 16:35, 8 November 2010 (EST)

No, CTown200, it was you who didn't want the viewing public to see anything except the changes you had made. In your guise at demanding "help" you never bothered to fully explain why you wanted changes to that article; you never came up with a valid plan as to what sort of changes needed to be made; you whined that you never had "time" to do much of it, despite the time you took to make your complaints. Was your effort at "cleaning" up this article a personal attempt to reduce the charges we made against Wikipedia? Does that not constitute a bias on your part? As to your "the article is to big to load on my computer" excuse...well, you'll just have to get a new computer. It loads up pretty well on mine.
If anything, this episode only proves that you were the childish whiner who couldn't get his way, and a foul-mouthed one at that. And yes, being a Christian does not mean we're going to be treated like a doormat by the likes of you; we can and will show you the door instead, and unfortunately, the door is what you got and deserved. You never did do a "good jobe" for us. Karajou 07:06, 10 November 2010 (EST)