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| − | =Conservative Politics and Investing in Tangibles= | |
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| − | ''Investing in tangibles''' is a major component of the [[fiscal conservatism]], [[conservative values]] and [[American values]] of [[preparedness|prepping]] as well as an [[inflation hedge]]. It is an investment in your [[survival]]. It is referred to as prepping with the [[mnemonic]] called the 8-B's: "[[Beans]]-[[Bullets]]-[[Bandaids]]-[[Books]]-[[Bullion]]-[[Battery (electrical)|Batteries]]-[[Brotherhood]]-[[Being]]", as well as the 3-B's "Bean, Bullets, Bandaids" and many other similar variations.
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| − | One should seriously consider the dismal state of the [[United States economy]], massive [[National debt|government debt]] and government [[deficit spending]], the [[Quantitative easing|money printing]] out of thin air by the [[Federal Reserve]] (QE3 - "printing money like it's going out of style, because it IS going out of style"), and the U.S. [[Debt to GDP ratio]].
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| − | Financial [[investment]]s ([[Stock market|stocks]], [[Bond]]s, [[IRA]]s, [[401k]]s and others) are practical ways of preparing for [[retirement]] as long as modern [[Systems of support]] remain intact and functioning more or less as they do today. If, however, these systems (the [[economy]] in particular) fail, then investments in tangible, life-sustaining items will provide a much greater return. Even if things don't go badly in the future, investing in tangibles can improve the overall quality of your life. That is why many Preppers-Survivalists say they invest in tangibles for "...if times get tough, or even if then don't". Such investments should be based on the concept of [[threat probability]] and [[impact scale]].
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| − | "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, [[butcher]] a [[hog]], conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch [[manure]], [[programming language|program]] a [[computer]], [[cook]] a tasty meal, [[fight]] efficiently and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -- [[Robert A. Heinlein]]
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| − | Thus, it seems appropriate for some to get substantially out of the [[stock market]] soon, cash in your [[IRA]]-[[401(k)]] paying the 10% penalty and get reinvested in tangibles like the "Eight B's":
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| − | #'''[[Beans]]''' ([[Food and water storage]] - [[Permaculture]] [[gardening]])
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| − | #'''[[Bullets]]''' ([[Self-defense]]-[[Firearms]]-[[Ammunition]]-[[Magazines|Full capacity magazines]])
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| − | #'''[[Bandaids]]''' ([[Health]]-[[Exercise]] - [[Herbs]]-[[Complementary medicine]] ([[:Category:Medicinal Herbs|Medicinal herbs]], [[:Category:Western Herbal Medicine|Western herbal medicine]] - [[:Category:Ayurvedic Medicine|Ayurvedic medicine]] - [[:Category:Traditional Chinese Medicine:Traditional Chinese medicine]] - [[First aid]] - [[Pharmaceutical]]s)
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| − | #'''[[Bullion]]''' ([[Precious metal]]s)
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| − | #'''[[Book]]s''' ([[Homeschooling]] for [[self-suffiency]] and [[duty]])
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| − | #'''[[Battery (electrical)|Batteries]]''' ([[alternative energy]], [[generator]])
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| − | #'''Brotherhood''' ([[Family]]-[[Friend]]s, [[Small town values|Town]], [[NRA]]-[[Gun Owners of America]]-[[John Birch Society]], [[:Category:Conservative Organizations|Conservative and patriot organizations]], etc.)
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| − | #'''Being''' ([[Acceptance]]-[[Patience]]-[[Virtue]]-[[Faith]], [[Prayer]], [[Contemplation]]-[[Meditation]]).
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| − | These eight categories of tangible investments in your immediate possession should be both stored and home [[geocaching|cached]] on your own productive [[farm]] [[land]] that is in a [[American Redoubt|lightly-populated region]] (see low [[population density]]) with plentiful [[water]] and rich [[soil fertility|topsoil]] (preferably in one of the [[free state]]s such as the [[American Redoubt]] ([[Idaho]]-[[Montana]]-[[Wyoming]]-[[Utah]]-[[Oregon|Eastern Oregon or Southwestern Oregon]]-[[Washington|Eastern Washington]], the [[Cumberland|Tennessee-Kentucky Cumberland Redoubt]]. Such a [[survivalist retreat]] should first and foremost have reliable [[water]] sources, preferably a [[spring]], or less preferably a [[creek|year-round creek]]-[[stream]]-[[river]], a [[pond]], [[lake]] and a [[water well]]. It should be private, secluded land, near a [[small town values|small town]], with the ability for tactical [[self-defense|home defense]] in the case of a total [[economic collapse]] or [[society|societal collapse]] in which [[crime]] becomes rampant. It should have a minimum of 3 [[acre]]s with some downward hill slope ([[contour]]) for [[permaculture]] (see [[Montana]]'s [[Paul Wheaton]] [[Permies.com]] forum and the http://RichSoil.com [[blog]]) [[Hugelkultur]] and [[swales]] on contour, with a mix of [[forest]]ed (for [[firewood]], [[microclimate]]s and [[food forest]]), [[pasture]] (for [[livestock|micro-livestock]]), [[garden]] land with good [[topsoil]] and a water [[pond]] or small [[lake]] for [[biodiversity]]. All of this should be in a [[rural area]]; and have potential for [[alternative energy]] like [[solar energy]], [[wind]] and/or [[hydroelectric|micro hydro]] [[electricity|electric power]].
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| − | Time to get invested in these big eight areas NOW before [[SHTF]]-[[TEOTWAWKI]]-[[Apocalypse]]
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| − | ===Tangibles Trump Conceptuals===
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| − | Modern [[fiat currency|fiat currencies]] are generally accepted, but have essentially no backing, unlike [[hard money]]. Because fiat currencies are largely a byproduct of [[interest]] bearing [[national debt|government bonds or Treasury bonds (debt)]], modern [[currency|currencies]] are destined to [[inflation]]. In the long run, inflation dooms fiat currencies to [[monetary devaluation]] and [[economic collapse]]. The majority of your [[asset]]s should be invested in productive [[farm]] [[land]] and other tangibles such as useful [[hand tool]]s. Only after you have your key [[:Category:Survivalism|logistics]] squared away, anything extra should be invested in [[precious metal]] such as [[silver]] and [[gold]].<ref>[[James Wesley Rawles]] in the [[American Redoubt]], "The Precepts of Rawlesian Survivalist Philosophy", [[Idaho]]-[[Montana]], [[The Survival Blog]], http://survivalblog.com/precepts Accessed December 10, 2014</ref>
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| − | Get out of [[Dollar (U.S.)|Dollar]]-denominated [[asset]]s, and into tangibles like productive [[farm]] [[land]], [[guns]], [[ammunition]], [[magazines|full capacity magazines]], and [[precious metal]]s (mostly [[silver]], followed by [[gold]] -- see [[Gold to silver ratio]]).
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| − | ==1. Food and Water ("Beans")==
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| − | Beans = Long-Term Storage Food
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| − | ''Read the main articles about [[Food storage]] or [[Water storage]]''
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| − | Expect to spend at least the same amount per month as your monthly food bill X 2 (at several thousand dollars) since you need to buy lots of 5 gallon [[food-grade]] buckets with color coded screw-on Gamma Lids and 55 gallon blue water barrels (see Emergency Essentials<ref>Emergency Essentials, [[Utah]], http://BePrepared.com</ref>) along with Country Living [[grain mill]]-grinder, bread maker, [[food dehydrator]], [[canning|canning supplies]], 1 quart [[Mason jar]]s, 2 [[camp stove]]s and lots of [[propane]] tanks, etc.<ref>http://www.survivalblog.com/2013/02/economics-and-investing-1450.html Accessed December 10, 2014</ref>
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| − | ===Food Storage===
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| − | The word "Beans" is often used to describe basic [[food]] and [[water]]. [[Essay:Invest in tangibles|Invest]] in 8 to 12 months worth of mostly long term storable dry-goods foodstuffs, and less of [[canned goods]]. Squirrel away lots of [[grain]], [[beans]], [[rice]], [[salt]], [[sugar]], [[honey]], [[coconut oil]] and [[olive oil]], [[ghee]], [[tea]] and [[coffee|instant coffee]]
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| − | ===Growing your own food===
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| − | The ability to produce food can be equally or more valuable that food storage, options include [[permaculture]]-[[gardening]], raising [[livestock]], developing a [[food forest]] and more. Many produced foods will need to be preserved for storage by [[canning]], [[Food dehydration|dehydration]], or [[Food preservation|other methods]]. Vegetable and fruit seeds can also be stored. Plan on three seasons worth of [[non-GMO]], [[open-pollinated]] [[non-hybrid]] [[heirloom]] [[vegetable]]-[[fruit]] [[seed]]s and [[cooking]] [[herb]] and [[medicinal herb]] seeds.
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| − | ===Water Storage===
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| − | == 2. Defense and Security ("Bullets")==
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| − | This means invest in, support, protect and defend the [[Second Amendment]], your [[family]], your [[liberty]].
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| − | ''Read the main [[Home security]] or [[Firearm]] articles''
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| − | The term "bullets" is often used to describe the ability to defend one's self or loved ones, usually with [[firearms]] and sufficient stored [[ammunition]]. Other [[home security]] measures should also be considered.
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| − | [[Liberals]] and [[socialist]]s support "common sense" measures - a "good first step" of the [[Police state|Nanny State]]. To a [[citizen]]-[[prepper]]-[[patriot]] and to the [[Bill of Rights]], this is "[[incrementalism|death by a thousand paper cuts]]". This video shows why you should invest in firarms and invest in ammunition.
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| − | This [[Second Amendment Foundation]] video is the formal response to [[Hollywood values|Hollywood]]'s [[Demand a Plan]] [[gun control|gun-grabbing]] [[propaganda]] video. The video shows one of the main differences between [[liberal]] [[gun control]] [[Nanny state]]s ([[Blue states]]) and [[conservative]] and/or [[libertarian]] [[Second Amendment]]-supporting "[[free state]]s" ([[Red states]]). This video shows why we [[vote with our feet]]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBelF4UddcY
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| − | There are many different types of firearms, but a small selection can meet most needs.
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| − | * [[Rifles]] are a primary component of many survival armories
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| − | ** [[.22 Long Rifle]]s are hunting small game, dealing with vermin, and practice. Popular models include the [[Ruger 10/22]] or [[Marlin Model 60]].
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| − | ** [[Rifle#Bolt Action|Bolt-action]] [[.308 Winchester]] [[chamber]]ed rifles for [[hunting]] or other long-distance shooting. Popular models include the [[Remington Model 700]] and [[Winchester Model 70]].
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| − | ** Large caliber [[semi-automatic]] rifles are useful for hunting, but are particularly useful for defense. Popular models include the [[M1A]], [[FN-FAL]], [[AR-10]] and [[HK-91]].
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| − | ** Small caliber [[semi-automatic]] rifles are useful for hunting, but are particularly useful for [[home defense]] and [[varmint hunting]]. Popular models include the [[AR-15]] ([[.223]]/[[5.56]] [[ammunition]]), [[AK Pattern Rifles|AK-47]] ([[7.62x39]] ammo), and [[Ruger Ranch Rifle]] ([[.223]])
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| − | * [[Shotguns]] are very versatile tools that can fire a variety of [[shells]] other weapons can not.
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| − | ** Shotguns are useful for defense, [[hunting]], and [[vermin control]]. Popular models include [[Remington 870]] and [[Mossberg 500]].
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| − | * [[Handgun#Pistols_.26_Handguns|Handguns]] are used primarily for defense, but see some use in hunting and vermin control.
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| − | ** [[Revolvers]]
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| − | ===Stock up on Ammunition===
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| − | Remember that "[[Essay:Two is One, and One is None]]!" Gun cleaning supplies, [[holster]]s, gun cases, gun slings, optics, and basic gun-smithing tools are all necessary accessories for firearms. Also consider high quality [[knives]] and [[force multiplier]]s like [[IP camera|security camera]]s and [[radio communication technologies|Comms]] such as [[CB]]s-[[MURs]]-[[Amateur radio]]-[[Short wave]] [[radios]]. In-person firearms training, not just [[Youtube]] gun videos ([[Nutnfancy]]), and gun range time should be priorities as well.
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| − | == Made in USA Tools ==
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| − | [[Made in USA]] [[hand tools]]: [[Made in USA hand tools]], [[Made in America]] [[knives]], Made in USA [[gardening tools]].
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| − | ==3. First-Aid ("Band-aids")==
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| − | [[Band-aids]] are often used to refer to [[first-aid]] supplies and skills such as a [[first-aid kit]], [[over-the-counter medication]], and [[prescription medication]]. [[Medicinal herbs]] and other natural treatments shouldn't be overlooked either.
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| − | ''Read the main articles for [[books]] and [[skills]]''
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| − | [[Book]]s, [[knowledge]], and [[skill]]s, are all potentially very valuable to have throughout daily life and in the event of a [[disaster]]. The [[internet]] provides a wealth of free knowledge via [[blogs]], videos, [[podcasts]], and other free resources.
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| − | * [http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com The Survival Podcast]
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| − | * [http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net The Survivalist Blog]
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| − | * [http://www.survivalblog.com The Survival Blog]
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| − | * [http://www.youtube.com Youtube]
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| − | ==5. Precious metals ("Bullion")==
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| − | ''Read the main articles about [[Precious metal]]s and [[barter]]''
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| − | Bullion generally refers to [[precious metal]]s, but can refer to any hard [[currency]] or [[barter]] items. Items such as [[Gold]] and [[Silver]] are the primary forms of "bullion", but [[alcohol]], [[fuel]], luxury items, and anything else that is hard to come buy during a [[disaster]] can be useful. While barter may be the only viable option for trade after an [[economic collapse]], participating in barter today can provide economic advantages over using [[cash]], such as circumventing taxation and getting greater relative value.
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| − | ==6. Energy ("Batteries")==
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| − | ''Read the main [[Energy]] article''
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| − | Modern life is greatly improved by modern [[energy]] using systems. Transitioning to a life without such system would be incredibly difficult for many people. There are a wide variety of ways to become more [[prepared]] or [[self-sufficient]] when it comes to meeting your own energy needs. Investing in energy storage, energy production, and energy efficiency can all make life easier after a disaster or better before one.
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| − | Energy sources that can be [[fuel storage|stockpiled]] to run appliances or [[generators]]
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| − | *Fossil fuels - [[diesel]], [[gasoline]], [[kerosene]], [[propane]]
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| − | [[Renewable energy]] sources that you can produce yourself
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| − | *[[Alcohol]]
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| − | Brotherhood can come from [[family]], a [[support network]], the survival community, or your local community. These are very important to care for and protect and invest in. Surviving after a disaster or everyday life is very difficult without some sort of family or community. Humans are social creatures and both mental and physical health suffer in isolation. Additionally, community and family can have far greater skills and resources that any individual can.
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| − | ==8. Stay Busy, Don't Hurry, Don't Worry, Be Content ("Being")==
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| − | This refers to the [[psychology]] of survival and particularly to [[faith]], [[prayer]], [[contemplation]]-[[meditation]].
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| − | * '''Stay Busy''' - [[Work]] is good mental and physical health, idleness is bad for them
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| − | * '''Don't Hurry''' - Be [[patient]], it can be tempting to get into a hurry and make mistakes
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| − | * '''Don't [[Worry]]''' - [[Stress]]ing out over things that can not be controlled is un[[health]]y and doesn't improve things
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| − | * [[Self-directed IRA]] and [[IRA]], [[401(k)]], [[Roth IRA]], [[403(b)]], [[Retirement]], [[Social security]]
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| − | * [[:Category:Survivalism|Investments for Survival]]
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| − | * [[American economic history]]
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| − | * [[Essay:Invest in tangibles]] - [[:Category:Survivalism|Economic preparedness]]
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| − | * [[Inflation]] versus [[Interest rate]]s / [[Rate of return]]-[[Expected return]]
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| − | * [[Self-directed IRA]] and [[IRA]], [[401(k)]], Roth IRA, [[403(b)]], [[Retirement]], [[Social security]]
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| − | * '''[[:Category:Banksters|Banksters]]:''' [[Quantitative easing]] of the [[Federal Reserve Bank]], [[MF Global]], [[Goldman Sachs]], [[AIG]], [[Rothschild family]], [[Bernie Madoff]], [[Dianne Feinstein]]
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| − | * '''[[National debt|National Debt]]:''' [[Debt Ceiling]]-[[Deficit spending]] and the [[Federal Reserve System]]'s [[Ponzi scheme]] of [[Quantitative easing]]-[[Debt monetization]] [[devaluation]] of [[Fiat currency]] through [[Money supply]]-[[Treasury bill]]s bought mostly by [[China]] and [[Japan]]
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| − | * '''[[Globalization]]-[[Globalism]]:''' [[United Nations]], [[International Monetary Fund]], [[World Bank]]
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| − | * '''[[Liberal]] [[Keynesian economics]]''': [[John Maynard Keynes]] and [[Fabian Socialism|Fabian Socialist]] influence on [[Barack Obama]]
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| − | * '''[[Big government | Big Government]]''': [[Liberal values|Liberal]] [[ObamaCare]]-[[Common Core]]-[[Social Security]] [[Welfare state]] leads to [[Nanny state]], leads to [[Gun control]], [[Militarization of police]], [[Asset forfeiture]] and Domestic [[mass surveillance]] of law-abiding [[citizen]]s via the '''[[Police state]]''': [[Globalist]]-[[United Nations]]-[[Statist]]-[[Socialist]]-[[National Socialist]]-[[Communist]]
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| − | * '''[[Fiscal conservatism]]:''' [[Ludwig von Mises]]' [[conservative]] [[libertarian]] [[Austrian economics]] and [[Capitalist]] [[Conservative economic policies]] of [[Ron Paul]]
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| − | * '''[[Precious metal]]s:''' [[Gold standard]], [[Gold]] and [[Silver]]
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| − | * [[Essay:Invest in tangibles|Invest in tangibles]] for [[:Category:Survivalism|Economic preparedness]]
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| − | * '''[[Limited government]]:''' [[Conservative values]]/[[Traditional values]] - [[Modern conservatism]] - [[Preparedness | Modern preparedness]], [[Capitalism]] and [[Free enterprise]] are the original [[American]] [[Patriot]] [[Founding Fathers]]' values
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| − | * '''[[Preparedness|Modern preparedness]]:''' "[[if times get tough, or even if then don't]]", [[Debt is financial cancer]], [[Tax is theft]], [[Renewable energy]], [[Financial security]], [[You are in control of your life]]
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| − | ** '''[[Agriculture]]-[[Permaculture]]-[[Gardening]]]:''' [[Growing your own food]], [[Food storage]] and [[Water storage]]
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| − | ** [[Family values]] and [[Parental rights]]: [[Sanctity of life]], [[Family]]-[[Marriage]], [[Homeschooling]] teaching [[Virtue]], [[Patriotism]], [[Duty]], and [[Self-reliance]]
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| − | * '''[[Security]] [[Software]] and [[Security-focused operating systems | Security-Focused Operating Systems]]''' to protect [[unalienable rights | unalienable]] [[Right to Privacy]] ([[Internet privacy]], [[Information privacy]], [[Expectation of privacy]]) and [[Second Amendment]] - [[First Amendment]] ([[Freedom of information]] and [[Political freedom]]) rights against [[unconstitutional]] [[Gun control]] - [[Internet censorship]] [[Big government]] [[Police state]], [[hackers]], and "[[5 U.S.C. § 3331|all enemies, foreign and domestic]]" of [[American values | American]] [[liberty]].
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| − | **'''[[Tails (operating system)|Tails Anonymous Secure Operating System]]''': [[Linux]]-based with [[Tor (anonymity network)]], [[Firefox]] [[browser]], [[HTTPS Everywhere]] [[encryption]]
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| − | * '''[[Privacy search engines | Privacy Search Engines]]: [[Duck Duck Go]]''' and [[Ixquick]]: [[Privacy]]-oriented [[Search engine]]s instead of tracking by [[Google]], [[Yahoo]] and [[Bing]]
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| − | * '''[[Internet anonymity | Internet Anonymity]] - [[Right to be forgotten]] [[Pseudonymity]]''' using [[Anonymous web browsing]] with [[Tails]] and [[VPN]] ([[Virtual Private Network]]), [[HMA]], [[OpenVPN]] and [[IPsec]]
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| − | * '''[[Privacy resources | Privacy Resources]]:'''
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| − | ** '''[[Edward J. Snowden]] Revelations''' of [[unconstitutional]] domestic spying on law-abiding [[American]] [[citizen]]s
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| − | * [https://survivalblog.com/2010/09/shifting-to-tangibles-in-an-ag.html Shifting to Tangibles in an Age of Inflation], [[James Wesley Rawles]], [[The Survival Blog]]
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| − | * "Survive This: TOP 10 Reasons NOT to [[Bug Out]]", by [[Nutnfancy]] of the [[American Redoubt]] [[Utah]], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjK38SmrGSw
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| − | * [http://www.survivalblog.com/redoubt.html The American Redoubt -- Move to the Mountain States]
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| − | * http://www.survivalblog.com/retreatareas.html
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| − | * https://charlescarrollsociety.com/about
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| − | * http://www.radiofreeredoubt.com
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| − | * http://www.survivalretreatconsulting.com
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| − | * http://www.americanredoubtrealty.com
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