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I don't see the [[anti-semitism]] of this. If it *is* there, it's drowned out by the anti-smut message. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 13:51, 18 April 2007 (EDT) | I don't see the [[anti-semitism]] of this. If it *is* there, it's drowned out by the anti-smut message. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 13:51, 18 April 2007 (EDT) | ||
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| + | *As it happens, I do see [[anti-semitism]] in it. is in the physical caricature, not the words. Actually the target seems to me to be bathroom humor, not smut per se... but in any case there is to my mind a clear suggestion that "Jews are promoting vulgarity." But with regard to inclusion in the article, the question is whether this cartoon indeed "created a controversy" and, if so, whether it was an important controversy. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 14:02, 18 April 2007 (EDT) | ||
==the myth that Hollywood is run by Jews== | ==the myth that Hollywood is run by Jews== | ||
I'm softening this to "stereotype," because the word "Hollywood" is frequently associated with the heyday of the "studio system," roughly 1920 through 1950, a period during which I think it is literally true that the studio heads (the "moguls") ''were'' predominantly Jewish, mostly Jewish immigrants. Certainly Goldwyn, the Warner brothers, Mayer, Zukor, and Columbia's Harry Cohn were. About the only obvious exceptions I can think of were Walt Disney and Twentieth-Century Fox's Darryl F. Zanuck. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 13:56, 18 April 2007 (EDT) | I'm softening this to "stereotype," because the word "Hollywood" is frequently associated with the heyday of the "studio system," roughly 1920 through 1950, a period during which I think it is literally true that the studio heads (the "moguls") ''were'' predominantly Jewish, mostly Jewish immigrants. Certainly Goldwyn, the Warner brothers, Mayer, Zukor, and Columbia's Harry Cohn were. About the only obvious exceptions I can think of were Walt Disney and Twentieth-Century Fox's Darryl F. Zanuck. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 13:56, 18 April 2007 (EDT) | ||
Revision as of 18:02, April 18, 2007
The comic has created several controversies, one of which involved showing a clearly anti-semitic caricature of a stereotypical Jew. It was a reference to the stereotype that Hollywood is run by Jews. [1]
- We resolve to relive all our childhoods
- With programs that we think are cool
- With scripts that abound
- With stuff once only found
- On the bathroom walls in middle school
I don't see the anti-semitism of this. If it *is* there, it's drowned out by the anti-smut message. --Ed Poor 13:51, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
- As it happens, I do see anti-semitism in it. is in the physical caricature, not the words. Actually the target seems to me to be bathroom humor, not smut per se... but in any case there is to my mind a clear suggestion that "Jews are promoting vulgarity." But with regard to inclusion in the article, the question is whether this cartoon indeed "created a controversy" and, if so, whether it was an important controversy. Dpbsmith 14:02, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
the myth that Hollywood is run by Jews
I'm softening this to "stereotype," because the word "Hollywood" is frequently associated with the heyday of the "studio system," roughly 1920 through 1950, a period during which I think it is literally true that the studio heads (the "moguls") were predominantly Jewish, mostly Jewish immigrants. Certainly Goldwyn, the Warner brothers, Mayer, Zukor, and Columbia's Harry Cohn were. About the only obvious exceptions I can think of were Walt Disney and Twentieth-Century Fox's Darryl F. Zanuck. Dpbsmith 13:56, 18 April 2007 (EDT)