Difference between revisions of "Talk:Torture"

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:By far most commonly reported method of torture is physical beatings - other commonly reported methods include:" Explain how this mean Eminem, please. [[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 18:07, 23 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:By far most commonly reported method of torture is physical beatings - other commonly reported methods include:" Explain how this mean Eminem, please. [[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 18:07, 23 April 2007 (EDT)
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::Let's stick to the facts. the ''ABC News'' source reads as follows:
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:::...ABC News has been told by former and current intelligence officers and supervisors.
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:::They say they are revealing specific details of the techniques, and their impact on confessions, because the public needs to know the direction their agency has chosen. '''All gave their accounts on the condition that their names and identities not be revealed. Portions of their accounts are corrobrated''' by public statements of former CIA officers and by reports recently published that cite a classified CIA Inspector General's report.
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:::'''Other portions of their accounts echo the accounts of escaped prisoners from one CIA prison in Afghanistan'''.
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:::...The detainees were also forced to listen to rap artist Eminem's "Slim Shady" album. The music was so foreign to them it made them frantic, sources said.
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::Several interesting things to discuss, (1) use of anonymous sources; (2) what is the source of the statement, "Other portions of their accounts echo the accounts of escaped prisoners from one CIA prison in Afghanistan", i.e. where did this information come from? (3) what "portions" have been corroborated, and what corroborated "portions" are in this news item; (4) where is the Inspector General's report. (5) These "sources" specifically cited, "Eminem's "Slim Shady" album", and for some reason Brian Ross and Richard Espisito felt the necessity to cite this first.

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BEFORE YOU REVERT, READ THIS:

The source you site says one album, the slim shady album, but not as a "standard method." It is intellectually dishonest to report it otherwise. Flippin 17:59, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

By far most commonly reported method of torture is physical beatings - other commonly reported methods include:" Explain how this mean Eminem, please. Flippin 18:07, 23 April 2007 (EDT)
Let's stick to the facts. the ABC News source reads as follows:
...ABC News has been told by former and current intelligence officers and supervisors.
They say they are revealing specific details of the techniques, and their impact on confessions, because the public needs to know the direction their agency has chosen. All gave their accounts on the condition that their names and identities not be revealed. Portions of their accounts are corrobrated by public statements of former CIA officers and by reports recently published that cite a classified CIA Inspector General's report.
Other portions of their accounts echo the accounts of escaped prisoners from one CIA prison in Afghanistan.
...The detainees were also forced to listen to rap artist Eminem's "Slim Shady" album. The music was so foreign to them it made them frantic, sources said.
Several interesting things to discuss, (1) use of anonymous sources; (2) what is the source of the statement, "Other portions of their accounts echo the accounts of escaped prisoners from one CIA prison in Afghanistan", i.e. where did this information come from? (3) what "portions" have been corroborated, and what corroborated "portions" are in this news item; (4) where is the Inspector General's report. (5) These "sources" specifically cited, "Eminem's "Slim Shady" album", and for some reason Brian Ross and Richard Espisito felt the necessity to cite this first.