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:The PATRIOT Act had roving wiretap provisions. If a FISA warrant issued for (say Flynn) it would cover him whether he was at Trump Tower, on Capitol Hill, or his own residence. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 13:08, 10 March 2017 (EST) | :The PATRIOT Act had roving wiretap provisions. If a FISA warrant issued for (say Flynn) it would cover him whether he was at Trump Tower, on Capitol Hill, or his own residence. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 13:08, 10 March 2017 (EST) | ||
::Exactly. If Flynn asked you to borrow your cell phone for a minute to make a call, your cell phone was legally wiretapped (which Snowden, Ellsberg, and Sanders refer to as [[4th Amendment]] violations - the right to be secure in your person and effects). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|CIA vs Trump. Who's gonna win?]]</sup> 13:10, 10 March 2017 (EST) | ::Exactly. If Flynn asked you to borrow your cell phone for a minute to make a call, your cell phone was legally wiretapped (which Snowden, Ellsberg, and Sanders refer to as [[4th Amendment]] violations - the right to be secure in your person and effects). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|CIA vs Trump. Who's gonna win?]]</sup> 13:10, 10 March 2017 (EST) | ||
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| + | I love this provision of Section 702, "overseas". Did you know that across the [[Rio Grande]] is "overseas"? I mean, how simplistic do the authors of our nations laws, and the agencies given authority under them, think the American people are? We are decades beyond the point of need for serious, serious reform. | ||
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| + | And a reform movement, or Congressional oversight is nearly impossible, being the NSA has the complete records of electronic communications of every congressman, judge, or journalist looking into the matter, ready to discredit or blackmail investigators and critics. It is like living in Nazi Germany, as Trump said. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]]</sup> 11:40, 26 March 2017 (EDT) | ||
Revision as of 15:40, March 26, 2017
Obamagate
We are already seeing some of the disinformation as the Trump adminisration moves to take control of the NSA & US intelligence gathering apparatus, the IC (Intelligence Community). Getting rid of Flynn, a prodigal child of the IC, was a first step.
FISA authority taps persons, not devices and locations. When Trump and Republicans refer to 'Trump Tower' being tapped, this is a bow to the IC's cover that legal wiretaps are put on locations and devices, not targeted individuals irrespective of their location or which device the surveillance is collected from. RobSCIA vs Trump. Who's gonna win? 12:56, 10 March 2017 (EST)
- The PATRIOT Act had roving wiretap provisions. If a FISA warrant issued for (say Flynn) it would cover him whether he was at Trump Tower, on Capitol Hill, or his own residence. JDano (talk) 13:08, 10 March 2017 (EST)
- Exactly. If Flynn asked you to borrow your cell phone for a minute to make a call, your cell phone was legally wiretapped (which Snowden, Ellsberg, and Sanders refer to as 4th Amendment violations - the right to be secure in your person and effects). RobSCIA vs Trump. Who's gonna win? 13:10, 10 March 2017 (EST)
"Overseas"
I love this provision of Section 702, "overseas". Did you know that across the Rio Grande is "overseas"? I mean, how simplistic do the authors of our nations laws, and the agencies given authority under them, think the American people are? We are decades beyond the point of need for serious, serious reform.
And a reform movement, or Congressional oversight is nearly impossible, being the NSA has the complete records of electronic communications of every congressman, judge, or journalist looking into the matter, ready to discredit or blackmail investigators and critics. It is like living in Nazi Germany, as Trump said. RobSCIA v Trump updated score:CIA 3, Trump 2 11:40, 26 March 2017 (EDT)