Talk:Obama war crimes

I honestly don't believe that "Benghazigate" is a widely used-term. It would probably be better if the page were moved to "Benghazi Scandal timeline". Ninety percent of Americans cannot spell Benghazi correctly, so hoping that they can manage Benghazigate is expecting too much. Use of the -gate suffix has some limits. Not every controversy or misconduct is comparable to Watergate. Do you have many sources using "Benghazigate?" JDano (talk) 23:12, 8 May 2017 (EDT)

Benghazi scandal IMO relates to the Benghazi massacre, which in actuality covered up (a) illegal weapons sales, (b) illegal weapons transfers to the Islamic State, (c) misuse of intelligence agencies, domestic spying and harassment of reporters investigating the scandals, and (d) my conjecture that much of the CIA/Obama (basically Brennan, Obama, and a few others) harassment of Trump & assoc was to cover up their criminal (under both federal & international law) activities when Trump starting speaking openly that Obama & Hillary created ISIS (Jan. 2016). And Trump hired Flynn who was eyewitness to many abuses (Obama himself came out today again besmirching Flynn's reputation.

Trump-Russia, I'm beginning to believe, was invented to cover Obama, Brennan, and Hillary's tracks (others too) in what, for a better name, is Benghazigate that killed tens, if not hundreds of thousands, and led to the European migrant crisis.

In light of what's being uncovered, the deaths of four Americans shouldn't be confused with the larger abuses of power and fundamental damage these war criminals caused. RobS^{The coup plotters won, for now} 23:36, 8 May 2017 (EDT)

See, here's the fundamental problem: while Amb. Stevens has been made the hero, basically to derail Hillary's ambition, Stevens was up to eyes in the transfer of Stinger missiles to the Islamic State. That',s why he was there. That's why he was appointed 2 years earlier. So is John McCain tainted by the scandal, as well. Other Republicans, too.

The situation is like Iran-Contra. While no weapons were sold to Iran til 1985, no one asked the obvious question: What funded the Contras from 1981-1985? Mena Arkansas and the Clinton's got a free pass. In fact, the "Iran-Contra" investigation itself was the cover-up of fact the CIA was importing narcotics into the United States. RobS^{The coup plotters won, for now} 01:24, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

Thank you for your response. However the question remains if the general public has adopted using the -gate suffix here? What is Arabic for "-gate"? JDano (talk) 09:57, 10 May 2017 (EDT)

Who knows, maybe the Comey firing, and if McMaster's removal come to pass, or Susan Rice being investigated, could push it back into the open. If any of that happens, we'll be armed and can do a page move to whatever name the press gives it.

Incidentally, this page is No.1 on Google, and the term does have some ongoing currency. That means there are readers and ongoing discussions aware that there are basically two different Benghazi scandals. Unfortunately this one will do damage to the dead man's reputation.

David Ignatius of the WaPo is a big player in this one. "When Ignatius speaks, the CIA's lips are moving" we learned in January 2017 in the Trump-Russia probe; here we see Ignatius covering up investigations of Stinger missiles in the hands of Boko Haram between Sept 2011 - May 2012. RobS^{The coup plotters won, for now} 10:44, 10 May 2017 (EDT)

Drone warfare

Thousands of innocent men, women and many children were killed in violation of international law. I would like to see that expanded upon. In addition, war crime I don't know but Americans were targeted and killed by drones without do process. Definitely a violation of Constitutional rights.--Jpatt 12:13, 6 June 2017 (EDT)