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:I heard a little about this, but not that is was a publicity stunt...very interesting! In any case, they certainly don't seem to be conservative (though to their credit, they do support the salvation army) [https://www.2ndvote.com/business-entity/delta-air-lines].  --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 04:25, 3 March 2018 (EST)
 
:I heard a little about this, but not that is was a publicity stunt...very interesting! In any case, they certainly don't seem to be conservative (though to their credit, they do support the salvation army) [https://www.2ndvote.com/business-entity/delta-air-lines].  --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 04:25, 3 March 2018 (EST)
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== Wanted: Conservative banks, insurance, and transportation companies ==
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Since almost all of those "big evil corporations" run by "the 1%" are flaming liberals, there are a number of corporate categories in which I cannot seem find a single conservative company.  These include banks and financial institutions, insurance companies (I am excluding health sharing organizations from that category), automotive manufacturers as well as retailers and rental agencies, and airlines. These are categories where if you need the service, it seems that you have no option but to patronize a liberal establishment. Does anyone have suggestions of potential companies in these (or any other) categories they would like me to consider and research? --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 17:15, 5 March 2018 (EST)

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A useful website for looking up recent spending of a company is: https://www.opensecrets.org --David B (TALK) 10:56, 22 January 2018 (EST)
Also, this is a nice list of potential candidates, but each one should be checked, since I see reason to disagree with some of their listings: http://www.theamericanmaverick.com/2012/11/top-american-companies-supporting.html --David B (TALK) 11:15, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Should it be turned into an essay, or is mainspace more appropriate? --1990'sguy (talk) 11:11, 22 January 2018 (EST)
That is a good question I am still trying to decide on. We have the liberal corporate bullies page in mainspace, so since this is more or less the opposite of that, I think they should probably go together. Our "best/worst" pages are typically essays, but then, this lies isn't saying "best" or "worst," but just attempting to research and list which company generally act in conservative ways. That is more objective than a best/worst list. Because of this, I'm leaning more towards mainspace, but I can go either way. Do you think it should be an essay? --David B (TALK) 11:15, 22 January 2018 (EST)
I guess I lean in favor of keeping this a mainspace article. I asked because it seemed to me to resemble the "best/worst" essays because of the "Debatable whether conservative" section. --1990'sguy (talk) 11:20, 22 January 2018 (EST)
I can go either way also. I am also open to other titles for that section, too. I'm using it for companies which seem to support both sides to some degree, but seem at present to be leaning conservative. This is (obviously) very much a work in progress. --David B (TALK) 11:29, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Texas "bathroom bill"

Here is a case where liberal companies sometimes support conservative values despite their apparent leanings:
"Many major tech companies have already come out against the measure, including Apple, Amazon, Google, Cisco, and Facebook. Another letter on Monday signed by 14 CEOs from Dallas-based companies like American Airlines, Southwest Airlines, At&T, and Texas Instruments also urged legislators to drop the bill." [1] It doesn't mean they are conservative, but might be useful information in later development of this page. --David B (TALK) 13:18, 22 January 2018 (EST)

What??? Companies urging conservative Texas legislators to drop a conservative bill to require public school students to use the bathroom of their biological gender does not sound like something conservatives would do. --1990'sguy (talk) 14:36, 22 January 2018 (EST)
Ummm..."hold the phone." I got something messed up in research. That's why this didn't sound right--it wasn't. Thanks. --David B (TALK) 14:44, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Brand vs parent name

Opinion question: What should we do when there is a conservative parent company, and thus multiple brands under them are as well? For example, Taco Bell is a brand which is conservative. However, this is because its parent company, "YUM! Brands" is conservative. This parent company also owns KFC and Long John Silver, which are therefore conservative as well. Is it best to be concise by listing the parent company (perhaps with some well-know child brands listed parenthetically) as I have been doing, or would it be better to list the well-known brands separately, then perhaps include the parent in parentheses? This would take more space, but might be more user-friendly. --David B (TALK) 17:26, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Duplicate

Well, I thought it seemed astonishing that we didn't have a page on this. As it turns out, we do: Greatest conservative corporations. I am thinking that since this page has a brander purpose, it should be kept. However, is it beneficial to keep both? should I perhaps change this to only list semi-conservatives? Any suggestions? --David B (TALK) 20:02, 23 January 2018 (EST)

I agree that this article is of higher quality than the older one. I recommend making the other article an essay, particularly as it has the word "greatest", which is subjective. It can have a link to this article and vice-versa. --1990'sguy (talk) 08:38, 24 January 2018 (EST)

Companies caving to the gun control lobby

If any of the companies listed in these articles (1, 2, 3, 4) are also listed in this CP article, we should probably note this. --1990'sguy (talk) 13:12, 24 February 2018 (EST)

Thanks for the heads-up. One company which was listed as "slightly conservative" (Hertz) has been demoted. I also added FedEx to that list, since they are still holding out in favor of the NRA, even though some of their other polices are liberal. --David B (TALK) 15:11, 24 February 2018 (EST)
I see that FedEx is listed twice in the article, in the "Slightly conservative" and the "Debatable whether conservative" section. Assuming this is a mistake, this should be fixed. --1990'sguy (talk) 21:59, 26 February 2018 (EST)
and that is why I was surprised to find that FedEx wasn't on this list.... it actually was. I did a search on the page, too, so I'm not sure how I missed it. Anyway, thanks for the heads-up, I've fixed it. --David B (TALK) 22:52, 26 February 2018 (EST)
More on the bright side: HotelPlanner.com chose not to cut ties with the NRA,[2] and Roku is refusing to censor NRATV due to its support of freedom of speech.[3] --1990'sguy (talk) 22:38, 28 February 2018 (EST)
That is good news! I've never heard of HotelPlanner.com, and I also can't find any political info on them. All I found was that it is a private company, and they are looking to buy up other companies. Roku I've heard of, but also had difficulty finding info on them. Apparently, 2nd vote had the same problem. Perhaps these two are staying mostly neutral? Not sure--do you think either should be added based on this alone? It seems like some pretty weak evidence. HotelPlanner made it clear that this had nothing to do with politics, they are just sticking to the business deal. Likewise, Roku basically said that unless it breaks the rules, anything goes. --David B (TALK) 23:30, 28 February 2018 (EST)
FedEx is really taking some heat, and still saying outright that they support the right of citizens to arm and defend themselves. Their donation list is less that ideal, but do you think they should be promoted to "somewhat conservative"? --David B (TALK) 23:33, 28 February 2018 (EST)
If they're too obscure to add, then it's probably best that they be left out. I'm just letting you know about these developments because they might be useful for this article, but I'm not necessarily advocating for them to be added. --1990'sguy (talk) 23:54, 28 February 2018 (EST)
They are not necessarily obscure, I just can't find political preference info on them right now. Anyway, thank you for the info! --David B (TALK) 00:06, 1 March 2018 (EST)

While Delta probably isn't a conservative company, it's possible that its action was misunderstood but poorly executed: [4] Either way, it just lost a big tax break because of the move: [5] --1990'sguy (talk) 23:55, 2 March 2018 (EST)

I heard a little about this, but not that is was a publicity stunt...very interesting! In any case, they certainly don't seem to be conservative (though to their credit, they do support the salvation army) [6]. --David B (TALK) 04:25, 3 March 2018 (EST)

Wanted: Conservative banks, insurance, and transportation companies

Since almost all of those "big evil corporations" run by "the 1%" are flaming liberals, there are a number of corporate categories in which I cannot seem find a single conservative company. These include banks and financial institutions, insurance companies (I am excluding health sharing organizations from that category), automotive manufacturers as well as retailers and rental agencies, and airlines. These are categories where if you need the service, it seems that you have no option but to patronize a liberal establishment. Does anyone have suggestions of potential companies in these (or any other) categories they would like me to consider and research? --David B (TALK) 17:15, 5 March 2018 (EST)