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→Young earth?: The starlight "problem"
::Philip, how about actually understanding the matieral in the link you give before citing it? It talks about two possibilities (c-decay and time dilation) as solutions to the age problem for YECs. C-decay has never been observed, so that's not a solution. Time dilation is only significant near a massive amount of matter (like in the vicinity of a star) -- that's definitely not the case for light traveling through empty space.--[[User:Mackronking2|Mackronking2]] 00:37, 5 May 2007 (EDT)
::Philip, how about actually understanding the matieral in the link you give before citing it? It talks about two possibilities (c-decay and time dilation) as solutions to the age problem for YECs. C-decay has never been observed, so that's not a solution. Time dilation is only significant near a massive amount of matter (like in the vicinity of a star) -- that's definitely not the case for light traveling through empty space.--[[User:Mackronking2|Mackronking2]] 00:37, 5 May 2007 (EDT)
:::What makes you think that I don't understand it? Maybe you should read it properly. It talks about ''three'' possibilities, and doesn't accept the first two (including c-decay). Not being observed, however, should not be an issue; lots of things in cosmology have never been observed. Humphrey's proposal has a massive amount of gravity; a small universe centred on the vicinity of Earth. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:15, 5 May 2007 (EDT)
That article oly quotes Dr. humprey (who i Dr. humprey?), why it didn't quoted different sources; like stephen hawkings?
That article oly quotes Dr. humprey (who i Dr. humprey?), why it didn't quoted different sources; like stephen hawkings?
And why i need to apologize? i never insulted you or YEC (to "pwn" it is not an insult) and censored all swearing (wich wasn't offensive to anyone)
And why i need to apologize? i never insulted you or YEC (to "pwn" it is not an insult) and censored all swearing (wich wasn't offensive to anyone)
[[User:Aknot|Aknot]] 13:40, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
[[User:Aknot|Aknot]] 13:40, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
:It quoted Humphreys and not Hawking because it was Humphreys, not Hawking, who came up with the theory.
:I didn't ask you to apologise for insulting me or YEC, but for your dismissive tone, given that YECs have answers for these things which you haven't even bothered to find out before you dismissed the idea.
:Most of the rest of your post was barely intelligible.
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:15, 5 May 2007 (EDT)
== Young earth creationist view ==
== Young earth creationist view ==