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::::::::To answer your latest posting, you've insisted that the physical work of water baptism is necessary for salvation. Both the Bible and the confused doctrine of men you cite refute you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 18:55, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
::::::::To answer your latest posting, you've insisted that the physical work of water baptism is necessary for salvation. Both the Bible and the confused doctrine of men you cite refute you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 18:55, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
::::::::::You very cleverly distorted, contradicted and falsified the teaching in [http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm#819 '''CCC 819''' "Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of '''salvation'''".] --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 19:27, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
::::::::::You very cleverly distorted, contradicted and falsified the teaching in [http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm#819 '''CCC 819''' "Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of '''salvation'''".] --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 19:27, 3 November 2019 (EST)
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:::::::::::Read your own posting. It Christ saves, not the church. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 19:37, 3 November 2019 (EST)
    
::::::::To put it bluntly - baptism does not save. Only the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ saves. All else is another gospel, ''which is no gospel at all. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 19:02, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
::::::::To put it bluntly - baptism does not save. Only the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ saves. All else is another gospel, ''which is no gospel at all. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 19:02, 3 November 2019 (EST)
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