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::::::::::So which is it? the work of Christ or work of a believer who is baptized that saves? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 19:33, 3 November 2019 (EST)
::::::::::So which is it? the work of Christ or work of a believer who is baptized that saves? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 19:33, 3 November 2019 (EST)
:::::::::::'''The sanctifying work of Christ through baptism.''' "Christ loved the Church and gave himself up for her, that '''he''' might sanctify her, having '''cleansed''' her by the '''washing of water ''with'' the word''', that '''he''' might present the church '''to himself''' in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish." Ephesians 5:25-27. "'''He saved us''', not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, '''by the [http://biblehub.com/greek/3067.htm λουτρού water-washing'''] of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit which he '''poured out upon us''' richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that we might be '''justified''' by '''his''' grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life." Titus 3:5-7. "Except a person be '''born of water and the Spirit''', a person cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:5.<br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 22:22, 3 November 2019 (EST)
:::::::::::'''The sanctifying work of Christ through baptism.''' "Christ loved the Church and gave himself up for her, that '''he''' might sanctify her, having '''cleansed''' her by the '''washing of water ''with'' the word''', that '''he''' might present the church '''to himself''' in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish." Ephesians 5:25-27. "'''He saved us''', not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, '''by the [http://biblehub.com/greek/3067.htm λουτρού water-washing'''] of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit which he '''poured out upon us''' richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that we might be '''justified''' by '''his''' grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life." Titus 3:5-7. "Except a person be '''born of water and the Spirit''', a person cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:5.<br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 22:22, 3 November 2019 (EST)
::::::::::::Huh? Why is it so difficult to answer a simple question (and for good measure, you toss in ''washing of water with the word'', again). You know good and well that only the shed blood of Jesus and his resurrection brings our salvation. You also know salvation is by the grace of God, and cannot be earned by works. Why can't you just say that? Stop refuting God, and denying God's work, and making the claim that your salvation is dependent on an action on YOUR part. That, is ''another gospel, which is no gospel at all.'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 22:43, 3 November 2019 (EST)
====Point one of the analysis====
====Point one of the analysis====