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| | ==Additional relevant debate copied from [[Talk:Infant baptism]]== | | ==Additional relevant debate copied from [[Talk:Infant baptism]]== |
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| − | The issue is salvation. And what is required for salvation. The answer is metanoia - repentance - a change of heart and change of mind. A change of heart and mind in your attitude toward God, sin, and what God says about sin. Ritual cleansing cannot satisfy God. | + | ::The issue is '''''salvation'''''. And what is required for '''''salvation'''''. The answer is ''metanoia'' - repentance - a change of heart and change of mind. A change of heart and mind in your attitude toward God, sin, and what God says about sin. Ritual cleansing cannot satisfy God. |
| − | Here's the Express drive-thru scriptural interpretation: | + | :::Here's the Express drive-thru scriptural interpretation: |
| − | Satan defied God and when he said "I will exalt myself..." | + | :::*Satan defied God and when he said "I will exalt myself..." |
| − | Jesus provided the way for salvation when he said "Father, let this cup pass, nevertheless Thy will, not my will..." | + | :::*Jesus provided the way for '''salvation''' when he said "Father, let this cup pass, nevertheless Thy will, not my will..." |
| − | In the proverb of the Prodigal son, which is a metaphor for all unsaved humanity, the prodigal son said, "I will return to house of my father...." (i.e. metanoia or repentance, a change of heart and mind toward his father) without any ritual cleansing on his part. When he arrived, he was clothed by his father. Only the blood of Jesus saves;. | + | :::*In the proverb of the Prodigal son, which is a metaphor for all '''unsaved''' humanity, the prodigal son said, "I will return to house of my father...." (i.e. ''metanoia'' or repentance, a change of heart and mind toward his father) ''without'' any ritual cleansing on his part. When he arrived, he was clothed by his father. Only the blood of Jesus '''saves''';. |
| − | And I should have included this part up front: remainder of Romans 10:9-10, "For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. In all three examples above the "I will" part came out of the mouth. Salvation is not dependent upon any action (or "work") by us. "It is finished", as Jesus said. RobSDe Plorabus Unum 17:20, 7 October 2019 (EDT) | + | ::And I should have included this part up front: remainder of Romans 10:9-10, "''For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto '''salvation'''.'' In all three examples above the "I will" part came out of the mouth. '''Salvation''' is not dependent upon any action (or "work") by us. "It is finished", as Jesus said. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 17:20, 7 October 2019 (EDT) |
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| | ::Dataclarifier, Define [[El Shaddai]], and refute that babies have no faith. Or that ''the faith of child'' is not necessary to be saved. Or that ''the faith of Abraham'' is not necessary for salvation. | | ::Dataclarifier, Define [[El Shaddai]], and refute that babies have no faith. Or that ''the faith of child'' is not necessary to be saved. Or that ''the faith of Abraham'' is not necessary for salvation. |