| | ::Your conspiracy theory sounds like a modern day conspiracy theory generated by the Deep State to take the heat off the Deep State. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 22:37, 8 October 2020 (EDT) | | ::Your conspiracy theory sounds like a modern day conspiracy theory generated by the Deep State to take the heat off the Deep State. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 22:37, 8 October 2020 (EDT) |
| − | :::Maybe so, but on the other hand, these are the same guys who successfully managed to outright frame the Nazis for the [[Katyn massacre]] (with nothing pinning the Soviets to the crime among the general populace until 1991 with the Mitokyn Archives being leaked), so I wouldn't underestimate their capabilities for disinformation. Besides, they also were responsible for turning Che Guevara, a guy who, BTW, literally attempted to turn the Cold War into a hot one during the Cuban Missile Crisis against even Khrushchev's advice, into a leftist saint overnight (and that definitely would have been a far bigger black mark against them ESPECIALLY after the Cuban Missile Crisis and how close they got to nuclear war), and also were responsible for forming the anti-Vietnam Protests. And Ion Mihai Pacepa was directly involved in the disinformation campaigns for all three instances, even dedicated an entire chapter of his book ''Disinformation'', so if anyone knows about JFK being assassinated by the Soviets, or at the very least their proxies, it's him. And besides, that Wolfe guy, the East German spymaster, specifically indicated that Fidel Castro had a hand in JFK's assassination as well. And considering that LBJ basically had a tantrum when the Joint Chiefs of Staff suggested mining the harbor and doing calculated aerial strikes against the North Vietnamese that essentially amounted to accusing them of trying to start World War II, wouldn't the prospect of nuclear war if the truth got out been reason enough for the government at the time to AVOID pinning the blame on the Soviets, especially after the close call at Cuba two years before? | + | :::Maybe so, but on the other hand, these are the same guys who successfully managed to outright frame the Nazis for the [[Katyn massacre]] (with nothing pinning the Soviets to the crime among the general populace until 1991 with the Mitokyn Archives being leaked), so I wouldn't underestimate their capabilities for disinformation. Besides, they also were responsible for turning Che Guevara, a guy who, BTW, literally attempted to turn the Cold War into a hot one during the Cuban Missile Crisis against even Khrushchev's advice, into a leftist saint overnight (and that definitely would have been a far bigger black mark against them ESPECIALLY after the Cuban Missile Crisis and how close they got to nuclear war), and also were responsible for forming the anti-Vietnam Protests. And Ion Mihai Pacepa was directly involved in the disinformation campaigns for all three instances, even dedicated an entire chapter of his book ''Disinformation'', so if anyone knows about JFK being assassinated by the Soviets, or at the very least their proxies, it's him. And besides, that Wolfe guy, the East German spymaster, specifically indicated that Fidel Castro had a hand in JFK's assassination as well. And considering that LBJ basically had a tantrum when the Joint Chiefs of Staff suggested mining the harbor and doing calculated aerial strikes against the North Vietnamese that essentially amounted to accusing them of trying to start World War III, wouldn't the prospect of nuclear war if the truth got out been reason enough for the government at the time to AVOID pinning the blame on the Soviets, especially after the close call at Cuba two years before? |
| | :::And technically, it's not even mine, it's Ion Mihai Pacepa's claim (and given that he was a former DIE agent, and specifically indicated that he had been previously involved in said disinformation campaigns by the KGB, it's pretty obvious he's not a Deep Stater. Heck, at the time those things happened, he was still firmly loyal to the Communists, didn't defect until the 1980s). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 22:39, 8 October 2020 (EDT) | | :::And technically, it's not even mine, it's Ion Mihai Pacepa's claim (and given that he was a former DIE agent, and specifically indicated that he had been previously involved in said disinformation campaigns by the KGB, it's pretty obvious he's not a Deep Stater. Heck, at the time those things happened, he was still firmly loyal to the Communists, didn't defect until the 1980s). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 22:39, 8 October 2020 (EDT) |