Talk:Cuban Missile Crisis

NSDC

I don't think we can NSDC as a source. Forbes reports,

• Results may be skewed due to unconsolidated data of national and affiliate groups, rounding or incomplete information. *Total compensation, which may include benefits, one-time payments and deferred compensation, is based on latest available information. In some cases, sum is for a different year. Top pay may not be that of listed top person. 1Charitable services as percent of total expenses. 2Percent of private support tremaining after fundraising expenses. 3Percent of private support remaining after surplus. A negative number indicates private support exceeded surplus. NA- Not available. - Ratio increase from previous reported period. - Ratio decrease from previous reported period. - Same as previously reported period. - No comparable [1]

Hmmm....where did we hear similiar language...hmmm...was it ...Enron? RobS 16:17, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

Dates

Somebody wrote 14 days, starting at October 14th, it was actually October 15th. Plus, that makes Thirteen Days, which is the title of Robert Kennedy's book, as well as the Feature Film on the Crisis. Just something I noticed. Mskreuz 19:25, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Photography

Not being disrespectful, but as the author wrote "Satelite technology was in its infancy." It was, and the satellites where VERY primative, not capable of delivering that quality of photography. There may have been one or two test runs of taking photography late in the Cold War, but the primary method of gathering photography was through the U-2 Spy Plane. Just to clear that up. Thanks! Mskreuz 19:37, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Including Images

I was thinking it'd be cool to include some of the U-2 photography, but it doesn't look like the system will let me. From what I read, it looked like the admins were okay with it, but I don't know... Mskreuz 13:20, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Place Conservapedia:Image upload requests here. RobS 13:28, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Here you go. [2]

Sweet! Thanks! Mskreuz 16:10, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Ray Cline I think was the analyst who discovered the missiles from the photgraphs. [3] Perhaps we can get his name in here somehow or quote from him, and I'd like t o do an Ray Cline entry. RobS 15:18, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Oh, cool! I never knew that. That's a good idea for books on further reading. I just did a research documentary on this topic, and I have loads of stuff I could list. (I won't be to excessive) Funny I didn't already know that. Mskreuz 16:47, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Expanse of the Crisis Section

I'm looking for opinions on this. I was looking at this section of the article (Section Title added by me just for clarification.) Not to be rude or anything, but after a lot of research this year a lot of those statments were either really questionable, strangely interpreted facts (IMHO), or wrong. (I do realize that part of the interpretation is due to an individual and their bias, but I really can't understand how they could be so different.) I'm sure anybody who has an extended view on this topic would understand. I was going to try to edit it, but I realized it'd take a lot of work. Would it be at all appropriate to just chop it? I don't want to be out of line or rude, but a lot of that stuff just doesn't seem right.

Thanks! Mskreuz 21:06, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

Since User_talk:RobS is the only other contributor to this article [4], I would suggest you contact Rob on his talk page with your suggestion. Crocoite ^Talk 21:16, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

Okay I'm removing the following text from the article:

Expanse of The Crisis The United States discovered that the Soviet Union was installing offensive missiles capable of nuclear warheads at air bases in Cuba. The potentially nuclear missiles would soon be able to launch and strike the U.S. within minutes of launch. Washington D.C. was well within their range. President Kennedy demanded that the Soviets remove the missiles. To ensure this would happen, and to insure no further development of the missile base, he sent the U.S. navy to blockade the island. Secret negotiations ensued. The Russians demanded that U.S. nuclear missiles in Turkey be removed for the removal of missiles in Cuba, but this was rejected. Eventually, Nikita Khrushchev, the Soviet premier at the time, backed down to avoid a possible war with the United States and to maintain a relationship with Cuba.

Here's my justification. Overall, these are a lot of basic statements, which contain information that should be written about, but in a more in depth way. Also, a lot of these statements aren't completely accurate. For example the USSR did not "Demand" the missiles in Turkey to be removed, and we did not "Refuse". It was a much more delicate situation, resulting in a non Quid Pro Quo agreement. The Quarantine (Or basically blockade) wasn't to prevent the missiles from becoming active, it was to prevent further missiles from being delivered, and really just a show of force to say "We Mean Business". Also, keeping the relationship with Cuba was not on the USSR's agenda. Cuba was rather ticked off at the USSR because of that, and in Fidel Castro's words "We Were Irate!".

That's my justification for this edit, just so everybody knows. Mskreuz 12:40, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

One thing that neeeds to be included here, is to dispell the false notion that this was a stand-off between Kennedy & Khruschev, each with their finger on the trigger. In fact, it was the local Soviet commander on the ground in Cuba who had the power to authorize a nuclear launch without permission from Moscow. RobS 13:14, 6 June 2007 (EDT)