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The decline in the quality of material at Internet Infidels has been concurrent with the rise of [[theism|theists]] in academia within [[philosophy]] departments (see: [[Atheism and academia]]). In 1990, the [[atheism|atheist]] philosopher [[Michael Martin]] indicated there was a general [[Atheism and apathy|absence of an atheistic response]] to contemporary work in the [[philosophy]] of religion and in jest he indicated that it was his "cross to bear" to respond to [[theism|theistic]] arguments (see: [[Atheist apologetics]]).<ref>''Open Questions: Diverse Thinkers Discuss God, Religion, and Faith'' by Luís F. Rodrigues, page 201</ref>  In 1994, Michael Martin was criticized for his eleventh hour cancellation of his debate with [[Greg Bahnsen]] (see: [[Greg Bahnsen and debate]]).

The decline in the quality of material at Internet Infidels has been concurrent with the rise of [[theism|theists]] in academia within [[philosophy]] departments (see: [[Atheism and academia]]). In 1990, the [[atheism|atheist]] philosopher [[Michael Martin]] indicated there was a general [[Atheism and apathy|absence of an atheistic response]] to contemporary work in the [[philosophy]] of religion and in jest he indicated that it was his "cross to bear" to respond to [[theism|theistic]] arguments (see: [[Atheist apologetics]]).<ref>''Open Questions: Diverse Thinkers Discuss God, Religion, and Faith'' by Luís F. Rodrigues, page 201</ref>  In 1994, Michael Martin was criticized for his eleventh hour cancellation of his debate with [[Greg Bahnsen]] (see: [[Greg Bahnsen and debate]]).

On the whole, the misguided efforts to promote [[atheism]]/[[agnosticism]] not been very effective on the internet (see also: [[Ineffectiveness of atheist internet outreach]]).<ref>http://www.tektonics.org/gerkin01.html</ref>  On the other hand, [[Internet evangelism|Christian internet evangelism]] has been very effective.<ref>http://www.globalmediaoutreach.com/about_us.html</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVnZAzG53Ok</ref>  

On the whole, the misguided efforts to promote [[atheism]]/[[agnosticism]] not been very effective on the internet (see also: [[Internet atheism has a small audience and an insignificant influence on the world]]).<ref>http://www.tektonics.org/gerkin01.html</ref>  On the other hand, [[Internet evangelism|Christian internet evangelism]] has been very effective.<ref>http://www.globalmediaoutreach.com/about_us.html</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVnZAzG53Ok</ref>  

Unlike [[Christianity]], which is supported by a large body of sound evidence (see: [[Christian apologetics]]), atheism/agnosticism [[Attempts to dilute the definition of atheism|have no proof and evidence supporting their ideologies]].<ref>

Unlike [[Christianity]], which is supported by a large body of sound evidence (see: [[Christian apologetics]]), atheism/agnosticism [[Attempts to dilute the definition of atheism|have no proof and evidence supporting their ideologies]].<ref>

* [http://www.greatcom.org/resources/secular_religions/ch01/default.htm Atheism, Agnosticism, and Skepticism] Synopsis of Understanding Secular Religions by [[Josh McDowell]] and Don Stewart

* [http://www.greatcom.org/resources/secular_religions/ch01/default.htm Atheism, Agnosticism, and Skepticism] Synopsis of Understanding Secular Religions by [[Josh McDowell]] and Don Stewart

* [http://creation.com/atheism Atheism] by [[Creation Ministries International]]

* [https://creation.com/atheism Atheism] by [[Creation Ministries International]]

*[http://creation.com/atheism-agnosticism-and-humanism-godless-religions-questions-and-answers Atheism, agnosticism and humanism: godless religions] by [[Creation Ministries International]]

*[https://creation.com/atheism-agnosticism-and-humanism-godless-religions-questions-and-answers Atheism, agnosticism and humanism: godless religions] by [[Creation Ministries International]]

* [http://www.carm.org/atheism.htm Atheism] by [[Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry]]</ref>

* [http://www.carm.org/atheism.htm Atheism] by [[Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry]]</ref>

== Secular Web's significant drop in web traffic ==

 

 

 

== Secular Web's significant drop in global ranking according to SimilarWeb.com and Alexa ==

{{See also|Internet atheism}} and  [[Growth of global desecularization]]

{{See also|Internet atheism}} and  [[Growth of global desecularization]]

According to the web traffic tracking company [[Quantcast]], the Secular Web lost a significant amount of web traffic from the period of 6/2/07 to 7/30/11.<ref>[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/05/internet-atheism-and-skepticism-thrill.html Internet atheism: The thrill is gone!]</ref>

According to the web traffic tracking company [[Quantcast]], the Secular Web lost a significant amount of web traffic from the period of 6/2/07 to 7/30/11.<ref>[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/05/internet-atheism-and-skepticism-thrill.html Internet atheism: The thrill is gone!]</ref>

According to [[Alexa]], the Secular Web experienced a drop in online global market share in 2017.<ref>[http://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2017/04/secular-web-lost-global-market-share.html Secular Web lost global market share in the first half of 2017 according to Alexa]</ref>

According to [[Alexa]], the Secular Web experienced a drop in online global market share in 2017 and 2018.<ref>[http://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2017/04/secular-web-lost-global-market-share.html Secular Web lost global market share in the first half of 2017 according to Alexa]</ref><ref>[https://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2018/10/these-atheist-websites-lost-global.html 5 atheist websites that lost global market share in 2018 according to Alexa], [[Examining Atheism]], October 22, 2018</ref>

 

== JP Holding's rebuttal to Secular Web contributors ==

== JP Holding's rebuttal to Secular Web contributors ==

''See also:'' [[Richard Dawkins' battle with online fans]] and [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]]

''See also:'' [[Richard Dawkins' battle with online fans]] and [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]]

[[File:PZ Myers at Skepticon 7.jpg|thumbnail|250px|right|[[PZ Myers]] ]]

[[File:PZ Myers at Skepticon 7.jpg|thumbnail|250px|right|[[PZ Myers]] ]]

In 2007, the Internet Infidels forum had a significant amount of internal dissension which caused some forum members to depart.<ref>http://spaninquis.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/internet-infidels-seems-to-be-melting/</ref> See also: [[Atheism and social/interpersonal intelligence|Atheism and social skills]] and [[Atheist factions]]

In 2007, the Internet Infidels forum had a significant amount of internal dissension which caused some forum members to depart.<ref>[http://spaninquis.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/internet-infidels-seems-to-be-melting/ Internet Infidels Seems To Be Melting]</ref> See also: [[Atheism and social/interpersonal intelligence|Atheism and social skills]] and [[Atheist factions]]

The Internet Infidels Discussion Board became the Freethought and Rationalism Discussion Board (FRDB), but now the discussion board is no longer on the internet.

The Internet Infidels Discussion Board became the Freethought and Rationalism Discussion Board (FRDB), but now the discussion board is no longer on the internet.

== See also ==

== See also ==

*[[Atheism and the internet]]

*[[Internet atheism]]

*[[Atheist apologetics]]

== External links ==

== External links ==

*[http://www.gotquestions.org/infidel.html What is an infidel?]

*[https://www.gotquestions.org/infidel.html What is an infidel?]

*[http://tektonforge.blogspot.com/2012/04/secular-webs-great-tinfoil-age.html The Secular Web's Great Tinfoil Age]

*[http://tektonforge.blogspot.com/2012/04/secular-webs-great-tinfoil-age.html The Secular Web's Great Tinfoil Age]

*[http://www.infidels.org/ Secular Web's website - Internet Infidels]

*[http://www.infidels.org/ Secular Web's website - Internet Infidels]