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, 13:57, September 17, 2023→The racist origins of the Bush/globalist establishment Republicans in the South
Now, some may wonder: aren't the modern-day populist faction of the Southern Republicans rooted in even more racism than the establishment types were? Yes and no—probably a minority element of the ultraconservative side were early participants in racist propaganda appeals, though the shift of the rural areas occurred decades later, and didn't solidify until the 2000s. Even in [[United States presidential election, 1980|1980]], Reagan lost the Deep South vote to [[Jimmy Carter]]! —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 01:53, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
Now, some may wonder: aren't the modern-day populist faction of the Southern Republicans rooted in even more racism than the establishment types were? Yes and no—probably a minority element of the ultraconservative side were early participants in racist propaganda appeals, though the shift of the rural areas occurred decades later, and didn't solidify until the 2000s. Even in [[United States presidential election, 1980|1980]], Reagan lost the Deep South vote to [[Jimmy Carter]]! —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 01:53, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
==Desantis news==
===DeSantis Campaign: Strong Second in Iowa "Good Enough" - Politico News===
"“He’s got to keep pushing the Florida story as it relates to Iowa — both states having become punching bags for the national media,” Kochel added. “I think he’s got to keep coming back to the state, keep making the pitch, ‘cause it’s a good stump speech.”
One national GOP operative supporting DeSantis and granted anonymity to discuss campaign strategy, said, “I think we’re going to win Iowa; I think it’s going to be a great victory that’s really going to catapult the race. But a close second still is going to have that same effect.”
So far Never Back Down officials say they have received commitments from more than 12,000 Iowans to caucus for DeSantis. The PAC has 21 staffers throughout the state, and has spent $5.5 million in TV ads. It plans to shell out nearly $30 million in ads, mailers and other forms of direct voter contact in Iowa and the early voting state of New Hampshire by Thanksgiving."
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/08/desantis-campaign-lowers-expectations-in-iowa-strong-second-good-enough-00114856 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 23:54, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
:Oh, so they admit they can't win. Of course, only two out of a dozen ever make out of Iowa. Their only hope is Trump stumbles over his own feet, gets locked up or assassinated. Where's the news in this story? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:14, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
Many people think DeSantis has a Good Chance in Iowa, he's visiting all 99 Counties, and many State Evangelical Leaders support him, it just isn't make or break for him. I think DeSantis wins Iowa comfortably. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 00:43, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
:Here's what they are doing: they know he won't finish first, so they are prepping supporters for the eventuality when he doesn't so they can still call it a victory.
:A week ago it looked like Ramaswamy might become the 2nd place finisher. He's down now, but he can still get back up. The contest for No 2 finisher is between DeSantis and Ramaswamy, cause only 1 will survive Iowa.
:RFK was down two weeks ago when they played the antisemite card. He's back up already. Who knows what's going to happen? Maybe Larry Sinclair will come out of the closet between Iowa and New Hampshire and say he had sex and smoked crack with DeSantis or Ramaswamy. You can't bank on anything. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:02, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
=== DeSantis' revives Tea Party style policies ===
“This government is spending way too much money. They've locked in the COVID-era levels of spending, which are totally unsustainable,” DeSantis said Friday during a Fox News interview when asked about the looming budget battle between congressional Republicans and President Biden. “They should absolutely have a big fight over righting that ship.”
DeSantis tried to expand the scope of that fight beyond just dollars and cents, arguing that conservatives can’t defeat the kind of big government policies they loathe without first starving the federal leviathan. “Part of the reason our bureaucracy is so out of control, and this deep state has developed like this,” he told Dana Perino, who will moderate the second GOP primary debate this month, “is because Congress has not been willing to use the power of the purse to discipline these agencies.”
This is comfortable ground for DeSantis.
He gave former House Speaker Paul Ryan fits over spending while in Congress, and he bucked Trump by voting against trillion-dollar budget deals. This could create a winning contrast between the governor, who has a record that fiscal conservatives like the Club for Growth adores, and the former president, who once described himself as “the king of debt” and who left behind a nearly $8 trillion tab for taxpayers." https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/09/08/drawing_contrast_with_trump_desantis_gives_it_the_ol_tea_party_try__149733.html
:Face it. DeSantis can't win on his own merit. He can only win as the default candidate after somebody comes up with a photo of Trump and Prince Albert with a 13-year-old girl, they lock Trump up, or the CIA takes him out. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:07, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
Lol. Laughable. I work in Investment Banking, and when recruiting we look at contrasting resumes between applicants. Here, look at the Presidential Resumes, T: "I raised the Debt by 8 Trillion Dollars", DeS: "I ran Record Budget Surpluses in Florida". I'm amazed some say they are Fiscal Conservatives but then support Trump over DeSantis after knowing that. This is devolving into a personality cult. Trump did some good things and some bad things, it's time to move on and turn the page on Donald Trump. President De Santis will pardon him, he can comfortably retire and enjoy his life, but Governor De Santis is the Best Man with the Best Conservative Record, not only Conservative Pro-Life and Conservative Anti-Woke and Anti-Covid-lockdowns etc record, but also clearly the Best Fiscal Record. Records speak for themselves. In this case, you're the interviewer, and you're hiring the next President. Choose carefully and wisely based on the resume. 02:10, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
:Look at the polling. The Undecideds aren't enough to close the gap between Trump and DeSantis. It's not even a contest. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:33, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
=== Reminder: DeSantis is estimated to have 45% Chances of winning the Presidential Nomination ===
"Lowry: So you’re like 50 percent on Trump’s chances now?
Rothman: I think he’s 45 percent. I’ve said I take the field, and I still take the field.
Lowry: That’s bold. MBD?
Michael Brendan Dougherty: I’m totally with Noah. I think DeSantis is either 40 or 45 percent for the nomination."
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/does-desantis-have-a-45-percent-chance-of-winning-the-republican-nomination/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:14, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
:The Democrats are determined to take Trump out, one way or another. By his own account, Trump couldn't stop the Deep State when he was president in 2020. Perhaps dropping out of the race will be part of his plea deal. If that doesn't work, well, Epstein's suicide was practice. I don't know what's going to happen to Trump, but I don't see a happy ending if he keeps running for president. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 07:57, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
::When a political party starts acting [[psychopath]]ic (Tramples on the rights of others, domineering, arrogant, pathological lying, etc.) they have to be confronted via the rule of law and there needs to be a political realignment so they wind up in the political wilderness due to lack of votes.
::So the GOP has to grow a spine via the rule of law and the Democrats need to keep bleeding voters. If they bleed enough voters the Democrats will either change or be replaced by another political party.
::You can call this a "political intervention". It's like an intervention with an addict. Unfortunately, the Democrats are currently addicted to tyranny and immorality (late-term abortions, stirring up racial strife, incentivizing single motherhood, defunding the police, promoting sexual perversion, etc.). Maybe conservative Hispanic voters and conservative Christians will play a big role in this political intervention. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:18, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
Agreed. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 08:20, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
:The GOP is at war with itself - between its neocon fascist establishment leadership and its populist MAGA/Tea Party base. And the base is wising up. They're not giving a blank check to neo-fascist RINO warmongers anymore. Brand loyalty is dying, and hopefully by the primaries it'll be dead. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:39, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
=== Reminder: Trump statistically tied with DeSantis in hypothetical Iowa head-to-head matchup with DeSantis ===
"The Public Opinion Strategies poll also found DeSantis closing the gap against Trump in a head-to-head matchup, with DeSantis having 40% support to Trump's 43% post-debate.
Pre-debate, DeSantis largely trailed with 34% compared to Trump's 51%."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iowa-poll-shows-desantis-closing-gap-trump-after-first-republican-debate [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:15, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
===Trump Blasts DeSantis, Says He ‘Sided With the Communists in China’===
Geez, I don't know how DeSantis can ever live this one down. [https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/trump-blasts-desantis-says-he-sided-communists-china/]
See, when you make stupid, unfounded claims about your opponent or target, be wary of the boomerang effect. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 16:05, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
=== Never Back Down tweets on DeSantis ===
"While Trump sits behind glass box seats at the Iowa-Iowa State football game, Ron DeSantis and Kim Reynolds watch the game with @CarsonKing2 and fans" https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1700598774849282117
"Is this why @realDonaldTrump left Iowa early? Again? [Image in the link of huge DeSantis 2024 banner at the game] https://twitter.com/NvrBackDown24/status/1700651544033526189
"Iowa ❤️‘s @RonDeSantis" [Video in the link] https://twitter.com/Kelly_Kundinger/status/1700674859099897893 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 18:43, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
:Reports I read say something quite the opposite. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:50, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
=== ‘You Lost Me’: Iowa Republicans Tell MSNBC Trump Has ‘Too Much Baggage’ – DeSantis, Others Can Still Catch Him ===
"MSNBC’s Allie Raffa was in Iowa on Saturday and spoke to GOP voters as the 2024 Republican presidential candidates converged on the state in hopes of wooing primary support.
Donald Trump has strong support in the state but it is not absolute, as was noticeable in his arrival at a college football game on Saturday. Raffa spoke to Republican voters supporting other primary candidates such as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, and told host Yasmin Vossoughian on Saturday that those Iowans believe Trump can be caught in the primary race.
“We spoke with quite a few Iowa Republican voters before they all started sort of flocking to the stadium here for this game,” said Raffa. “And sort of the gist we got from voters on the ground here, the majority of them had told us that they see potential in other GOP candidates besides Trump.” https://www.mediaite.com/tv/you-lost-me-iowa-republicans-tell-msnbc-trump-has-too-much-baggage-desantis-others-can-still-catch-him/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 06:55, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
Continued: "Raffa then showed clips from two of those interviews. The first, with a woman who voted for Trump twice but said that he lost her vote because he is unable to admit when he is wrong, and that his legal issues are a big problem for a potential president. She is instead going to caucus for DeSantis, who actually brings “tangible plans” to the table, she told Raffa.
“I feel that he has too much baggage with his legal battles. And as our country is facing a lot of problems, we need to unify. And I feel like with him, there’s going to be a lot of fighting. He never even once said, you know, ‘yes, I did wrong. Yes, maybe I could have done this better.’ It was always, no, I never did anything wrong. I’m always right. And that to me was like, I’m sorry you lost me.” [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 07:36, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
:MSNBC. Wow. Now that's news. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:02, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
=== Gov DeSantis statement on 9/11 ===
Gov De Santis:
"As President, I will demand from each agency that they provide a detailed justification for every remaining redaction, and decide, in the interests of transparency, whether the public interest outweighs any potential harm in disclosure before making declassification and public release decisions. I will end the federal government's decades-long abuse of the classification system and will strive to be the most transparent administration in U.S. history.
“Finally, I join in support of the Ensuring Justice for Victims of Terrorism Act introduced in Congress to close loopholes that prevent victims' families from holding foreign sponsors of terrorism accountable. I supported the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act in Congress, which was a crucial step forward. The Ensuring Justice for Victims of Terrorism Act will help realize its full intent so the families can get justice and answers.
“We have shown in Florida that we can rise to the occasion to provide those who lost their lives on 9/11 the respect they deserve. I was proud to sign a measure into law in Florida earlier this year that designates September 11 as “9/11 Heroes’ Day” and requires history education regarding the significance of that day, including remembering the sacrifice of military personnel, government employees, civilians, and emergency responders who were killed, wounded, or suffered sickness due to the terrorist attacks.
“The pain of 9/11 endures for these families and all of us who remember that day, and its history must be taught for generations to come. Our work is not done until we have fully brought to light all the details surrounding the attacks, and those responsible are held accountable. I will not rest until both are fully achieved. We Must Never Forget.”
https://rondesantis.com/press-releases/ron-desantis-statement-on-meeting-with-9-11-families/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 16:54, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
=== DeSantis Fabricated GOP Debate Story About Meeting an “Angel Mom”, Falsely Claims Gold Star Mother’s Son Died From Taking Drugs Laced With Fentanyl===
[https://loomered.com/2023/09/07/exclusive-ron-desantis-fabricated-debate-story-about-meeting-an-angel-mom-falsely-claims-gold-star-mothers-son-died-from-taking-drugs-laced-with-fentanyl/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:48, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
Laura Loomer. Bwahahahaha. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 20:14, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
=== Boom! An Amazing 70+ Faith Leaders endorse Pro-Life Governor Ron De Santis - gonna have a HUGE Impact on the Polls ===
"Source: https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/14/exclusive-desantis-faith-leaders-early-states/
EXCLUSIVE: DeSantis To Announce Endorsements From Over 70 Faith Leaders In Early States
“As a husband and father, Ron DeSantis is a man of faith and as a leader, he’s shown his resolve in defending religious liberty. I am excited to join this Faith and Family coalition and support Ron DeSantis for president because I know he will execute the same strong leadership in the White House as he’s done in Florida: protecting life, defending our right to worship, and defending religious liberties,” Pastor and Iowa State Rep. Jon Dunwell said in a statement.
Here Is A [Partial] List Of Endorsements:
Iowa
Dale Akkerman, Development Director at Timothy Christian School (Grundy)
Pastor Bryan Anderson, Tabernacle Baptist Church (Lyon)
Pastor Gary Axtell, Grace Baptist Church (Madison)
Kathleen Banowetz, Head of Prayer Team (Linn)
Pastor Joseph Brown, Marion Avenue Baptist Church (Washington)
Pastor David Bush, Fit for the King Ministry (Polk)
Pastor Mark Cannon, Hope Baptist Church (Scott)
Pastor Brad Cranston, Iowa Baptists for Biblical Values (Des Moines)
Pastor Rick David (Linn)
Pastor Mark Doland, Church of Christ (Tama)
Gwendy Doland, Youth and Women’s Small Group Leader at New Hope Christian Church (Tama)
Pastor & Representative Jon Dunwell (Jasper)
Pastor Kirk Evans, Indianola Church of Christ (Warren)
Pastor Lance Fricke, Triumphant Church (Buchanan)
Janice Fricke, Triumphant Church (Buchanan)
Evangelist Caleb Garraway, Remnant Ministries (Washington)
Senator Jesse Green, Bible Class Teacher at Trinity Lutheran (Boone)
Pastor Michael Griswold, Marion Avenue Baptist Church (Washington)
Minister Matthew Haynie, Ogden Church of Christ (Boone)
Pastor Jessten Heimer, Trinity Lutheran Church and School (Boone)
Pastor Jeremy Higgins, Calvary Community Church (Linn)
Brooke Higgins, Women’s Ministry Teacher at Calvary Community Church (Linn)
Pastor Abe Koehn, Marion Avenue Baptist Church (Washington)
Tom Law, Calvary Community Church (Linn)
Pastor Matt Magee, Oak Grove Church (Benton)
Pastor Ed Matthews, Bible Baptist Church (Wapello)
Pastor Harerimana Nshoreyingabo, Redeemed Fellowship Center (Polk)
Pastor Alfonso Perez, Miracle Life Family Church (Polk)
Pastor Marcial Perez, New Dawn Ministries (Polk)
Pastor Terry Pollard, Eastside Church of Nazarene (Polk)
Sean Sanford, Youth Leader and Small Group Leader (Linn)
Pastor Joyce Schmidt, St. Olaf Lutheran Church (Humboldt)
Pastor Scott Sokol (Hancock)
Pastor John Vermeer, Doon United Reformed Church (Lyon)
Matt Wells, Lay Leader at Marion Avenue Baptist Church (Washington)
Reverend Shane Wilson, Iglesia Espiritu y Verdad (Polk) ... [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 16:54, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
:[https://floridapolitics.com/archives/634342-q-ron/ Ron DeSantis trails Donald Trump by 50 points in latest Quinnipiac national poll]:
{{cquote|Another post-Labor Day poll says the Governor is losing ground.
Another day, another tough poll for the Ron DeSantis presidential campaign.
The latest from Quinnipiac shows the Florida Governor far behind former President Donald Trump. In perhaps the most discouraging news, DeSantis has fallen 11 points further behind Trump than his August number.
Trump is now at 62% support, 5 points up from the previous month. DeSantis, now at 12% support, is 6 points off the August mark. No other candidate has more than 6% support.
In concerning news for those who seek a Trump alternative, most of the former President’s support seems to be locked in.
“Among those voters supporting Trump in the Republican primary, 68% say they are firmly set on Trump no matter what happens leading up to the Republican Primary, while 29% say they might change their candidate choice depending on what happens leading up to the Republican Primary,” the polling memo asserts, suggesting that 42% of total respondents won’t budge.
The survey, conducted from Sept. 7 through Sept. 11, included 728 Republican and Republican-leaning voters with a margin of error of +/- 3.6 percentage points.
It is the latest post-Labor Day survey to show an increasingly noncompetitive race. In a new TIPP Insights survey, Trump leads DeSantis 60% to 11%.
Meanwhile, the former President continues to troll DeSantis for his poll numbers on Truth Social.
“Is it that he is a not very skilled politician, or perhaps his not so long ago fight against Farmers, Social Security, and MediCare??? Or maybe it’s the lack of loyalty to the man who took the DeSanctus failing campaign, and through a strong Endorsement, got him elected. Whatever it is, few have ever witnessed a drop so fast and so severe,” Trump posted Wednesday. “It’s a beautiful thing, isn’t it?”|||Florida Politics, Sep. 13, 2023}}
:—[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 16:56, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
===Boom! DeSantis Drops to Fourth Place in South Carolina===
[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/09/14/desantis-drops-to-fourth-place-in-south-carolina/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:44, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
===Boom! DeSantis Skips Work on His Birthday To Fundraise With Mitt Romney and Bush Family Political Donors===
[https://lauraloomer.substack.com/p/ron-desantis-skips-work-on-his-birthday] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:55, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
=== DeSantis calls out the Left's Attacks on Religious Liberty ===
DeSantis calls out the Left's attacks on religious liberty: "The minute you get outside that church they think you need to bow down and bend the knee to their agenda. That's not religious freedom. That is not what our founding fathers fought for and established."
[Video in the link] https://twitter.com/NvrBackDown24/status/1702781306986176948 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:39, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
=== Why Ron Desantis? His Conservative Accomplishments ===
From: https://twitter.com/derekeclipse55/status/1702897800244044242
<small>Here’s A Small List Of A Couple Accomplishments:
-Graduated Yale University and Harvard University
-Joined US Navy In 2004
-Was Promoted To Lieutenant Before Serving As Legal Advisor To Seal Team One
-Was Stationed At Joint Task Force Guantanamo In 2006
-Deployed To Iraq In 2007
-Us Attorney General Appointed Desantis To Serve As Special Assistant US Attorney At US Attorney’s Office In Middle District Of Florida When He Returned
-Elected To Congress In 2012 And Reelected In 2014 And 2016
-Became A Founding Member Of Freedom Caucus
-Highest Ever K-12 Public School Funding With $21.8 Billion In State/Local Funding
-Created Family Empowerment Scholarship Program
-Invested Over $147 Million In Funding For The Gardiner Scholarship
-Secured Over $625 Million For Everglades Restoration And Protection Of Vital Water Resources
-Created Blue-Green Algae Task Force
-Established Office Of Environmental Accountability And Transparency And Office Of Resilience And Coastal Protection
-Worked To Develop Plan For Safe And Affordable Importation Of Prescription Drugs From Canada
-Signed Patient Savings Act Into Law
-In 2022, Unemployment Continued To Decline, Dropping To 2.6% - The Lowest Among The Nation’s 10 Large States, And 1.1% Lower Than The Nation’s
-Exceeded National Job Growth Rate For 20th Consecutive Month In November, 2022
-Following The Pandemic, Desantis Oversaw Economic Growth And Record Budget Surplus In State
-Encouraged Parental Rights In Education Act, In Which Signed Into Law"</small>
[among many others - NX][[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 21:10, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
:NishantXavier, please: don't in ''every single Main Page talk post'' lazily paste a long text block. At the very least, if you don't want to summarize the main points, kindly put the copy/pasted text under <code><nowiki><small></small></nowiki></code> so less space is taken up, seeing that you especially are plastering content written not by you. Also, that long string of text isn't formatted properly in the context of how the end result is "intended" to be structured, seeing that Twitter text format differs greatly from wiki code. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:19, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
::Yah, and the "Graduated Yale University and Harvard University-Joined US Navy In 2004-Was Promoted...etc" belongs in the Template/Officeholder on his bio page, not here. And if it's already in his bio page, we especially don't need it here. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:36, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
:::As much as I vociferously oppose with you on other issues, I concur on this very specific point. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:01, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
::::You need to separate the two hats I wear - three actually. (1) An Administrator and Moderator of the site; (2) a content contributor; (3) a user who sometimes expresses personal opinions and points of view in discussions. It's not always easy to separate functions, but comes with practice. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:33, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
I've corrected the formatting. This is Conservapedia and Governor Ron DeSantis' Conservative Accomplishments are highly relevant to whether he is a True Conservative or not (as some allege/claim that he isn't), and to current events given this is primary season. I've spoken of some of these accomplishments of his myself, and some of them are compiled by others, in which case I always credit the source. Don't shoot the messenger, if you think he doesn't have some of these accomplishments, name them, and name the Conservative Candidate you think is better. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 21:38, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
:The problem isn't in the generic fact that you're covering issues. The problem is ''how'' you do it; you are spamming long quotes by other people instead of at least summarizing and condensing it in your own words. I'm just politely asking that you refrain from the habit of copy/pasting long text blocks '''that''' repetitively; it may be easy and saves time, though it's objectively a mediocre habit for a conservative wiki. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:01, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
Accomplishments are accomplishments. They are brute facts, and I have summarized it in my own words before, DeSantis running Record Budget Surpluses for e.g. It's why some Conservative Groups give him a near 100% Conservative Rating based on his Record. And I even put it in small tags now that you asked. Now, no more distractions to meaningless things; talk about the issues, or I'm out. God Bless. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 22:07, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
:Alright, I appreciate it, NishantXavier. It's not that there's anything wrong with pointing out facts; it's better to avoid taking up excessive space with directly pasted quotes. On the issue of DeSantis's record, yes, I agree that he has a solidly conservative slate of accomplishments. His record on racial issues is solid as well, as he's not afraid to dismantle the racist woke agenda, and he's signed legislation to punish antisemitic paramilitary anarchist groups. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:19, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
::Accomplishments go in the bio article. However, I would issue a caveat against campaign promises, or at least do it selectively. They tend to boomerang in a couple of years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:36, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
Yes, he's a very Pro-Israel Governor too. He'll be a Good President imo. Let's see how it goes. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 22:30, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
:About the issue of Israel, I'm increasingly skeptical of the Zionist side. While the anti-Zionist is filled with all sorts of socialist antisemites like neo-Nazis and like-minded ultrawoke college students rallying behind Palestinian [[national liberation movement]]s, that doesn't mean the pro-Israel side is quite innocent. According to Prof. Walter J. Veith, [[Benjamin Netanyahu]] is a high-ranking [[Freemason]]. It appears that the creation of the modern state of Israel is all part of a deception game concurrent with [[Futurism|Futurist]] theology created by Jesuit propagandist Francisco Ribera in an active scheme to subvert Protestants away from Historicist eschatology that implicated the Papacy as the Antichrist or Whore of Babylon. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:34, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
'''Recommendation:''' Start the [[Ron DeSantis 2024 presidential campaign]] page. You can be the page manager right through the presential transition. If you need help, look at some previous successful and unsuccessful candidate's pages as a model. You can add all the daily stuff you find there rather than here (try to edit it down somewhat, cause the more successful he becomes the more space you'll have to edit and reclaim later).
And if the [[Biden FBI|FBI]] starts spying on his campaign to [[sabotage]] it, you'll have a contemporaneous record to work with (the Obama [[DOJ-NSD]] even began plotting to sabotage Trump a month before he came down the escalator to announce his candidacy in June 2015). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:48, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
:I'm barely interested in the Republican presidential campaigns. The candidates are either corrupt establishment-owned globalist shills or antichrists. At the end of the day, the thesis/antithesis deception is only further perpetuated. If a globalist wins, the intent is to continue sowing misery and anger so eventually the populist "antithesis" rides the wave of backlash to political power. If Trump wins in 2024, perhaps we're closer to the end than I anticipated. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:50, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
::Oh no, I was talking to Nishant. He should be CP's point man on covering DeSantis, however long DeSantis lasts, through the primaries, up to the convention, up to the general election and into the transition. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:54, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
Ok, Rob, I took your suggestion. The page is up: https://www.conservapedia.com/Ron_DeSantis_2024_presidential_campaign I only highlighted two unique accomplishments for now, (1) 6 week Heartbeat Bill, (2) Record of Military Service. I will add more as the Campaign goes on.
A Christian Conservative who really lives his Faith can be trusted with decency, honesty, integrity etc. DeSantis is that. That's my opinion. We will see. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 23:12, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
=== A reminder of where Polls were roughly a year ago ===
From Politico, in Nov 2022: "According to the polling memo, which is based on survey data conducted Nov. 11-13, DeSantis leads Trump by 11 percentage points in Iowa and by 15 points in New Hampshire. Those numbers represent an improvement for DeSantis since August, when previous Club for Growth’s polling found Trump with a 15-point lead in Iowa, while the two were tied in New Hampshire.
The memo also says that DeSantis leads Trump by 26 points in Florida and 20 points in Georgia. In August, DeSantis led Trump by 7 percent in Florida and 6 percent in Georgia. The polls, conducted by Republican firm WPA Intelligence, surveyed likely GOP voters."
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/14/club-for-growth-steps-trump-relaunch-desantis-00066820
Polls change. Character and Integrity do not change. Records, like Pro-Life and Anti-Woke and Budget/Fiscal Records, do not change. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup>
:Yeah, DeSantis is much more pro-life than Trump is. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:19, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
Agreed. 6 week Abortion Heartbeat Bill, for e.g. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 22:29, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
:Yeah, DeSantis was fierce in his advocacy for unborn children. Shame to see the Republicans less solidly prioritizing of the pro-life issue under Trump—at a Republican convention (in Florida, I believe) several years back, most participants in a poll considered immigration far more important, with a very low percentage ranking abortion as a priority issue to emphasize. The socialist wing of the party under Trump is too busy appeasing ethnonationalists than fighting for the right to life. Trump says [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-bring-country-together-abortion-meet-the-press-rcna105311 the abortion issue should be downplayed to win votes.] —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:37, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
Yes. "If Abortion is not Wrong, Nothing is Wrong" ~ St. [[Mother Theresa]] of Calcutta. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 23:15, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
=== Otherwise-solid Candace Owens mistakenly says: "Resume doesn't mean anything" (about DeSantis). It does ===
Candace Owens, who is otherwise solid, implicitly acknowledging DeSantis has a Great Resume, says an "it factor", and "working a crowd" are allegedly more important than having a Great Record and actual Conservative Governance. While I disagree, it still gives a fascinating insight into the thinking of the average Trump voter. The person below thinks, and I agree, more and more will gravitate to DeSantis in the next few months. From: https://twitter.com/Unfilteredboss1/status/1703236752146874532
[Video in the link]
"PBD: DeSantis has an incredible resume.
Owens: Resume doesn't mean anything. You gotta have the it factor and know how to work a crowd.
So much to unpack here. First of all if working a crowd is more important to voters than an actual incredible and flawless resume, then our country is truly in trouble. Secondly, 2023 Trump is not 2015 Trump. He is a shell of himself. A low energy, bitter old man with declining mental health who can't stop talking about the past.
Lastly, what makes DeSantis exceptional is his work ethic, his uncompromising resolve, and his intense discipline and devotion to the mission. In times like these, that is what Americans will gravitate to." [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 09:28, September 17, 2023 (EDT)