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Andy, this incessant [[trolling]] is becoming intolerable. [https://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Bill_Browder][https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Bill_Browder&diff=1979615&oldid=1959047][https://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Block/Conservative] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:04, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
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*[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:User_complaints&action=history] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 15:45, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
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RobSmith is putting you at risk of being sued. He is totally making up a claim about a wealthy businessman based on something his father did. That is not only illogical (Namely the [[guilt by association]] logical fallacy), it is also unbiblical as per Ezekiel 18:19-23.
 
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You can see for yourself at: [[Talk:Bill Browder]].
 
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This should be easy to solve. But User: RobSmith gets very angry when people point out errors that he commits. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:11, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Hang the [[Template:Fact]] {{Fact}} tag. Do not [[edit war]]. The information is easily verifiable. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:14, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::RobSmith, you just told me the reason you put this sentence in was because of his father's past. There is no reason to put Andy at risk of a lawsuit. If you support the claim, then reintroduce it into the article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:18, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::I have his own words, but I can't pull them out of my butt at your command. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:21, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:(ec) [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Bill_Browder&action=history Edit warring] some more. Hang the fact tag. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:19, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::'''I telephoned Andy. I don't think he is foolish enough to intentionally put his neck on the potential lawsuit chopping block because RobSmith is too proud to admit error - especially since RobSmith admitted to committing the [[guilt by association]] logical fallacy and that he lacks any proof.''' [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:25, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::There's no error here. Hang the fact tag if you have questions.
 
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:::"a wealthy businessman" who gave up his US citizenship to escape taxes but returned to lobby John McCain and Barack Obama, and the United States Senate, to pass the [[Magnitsky Act]] which destroyed US-Russian relations. So how does a non-citizen tax cheat have that kinda power and influence in Washington? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:29, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::If you're right, that Andy's afraid of a globalist scumbag like that, we'll find out. ~![[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup>
 
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::::There is nothing malicious, slanderous, or defamatory in the statement you are disputing to begin with. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:38, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::The argument User:Conservative presents is about as [[Stalinist]] as you can get - that the grandson would have to swear off his grandfather to keep a good name. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:40, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::I have been round and round at least twice with User:Conservative on this. He is not familiar with the ''[[The Gulag Archipelago]]'', as he disingenuously claims. Workers were not subjected to physical torture in work camps, other than starvation rations. Wives had to divorce husbands, and children go to court to disown parents so they would not be swept up in the gulag as relatives of enemies of the people. Solzhenitsyn claims the system was more cruel than slavery in the American South where Blacks were still allowed to live in family units. User:Conservative knows nothing about communism (other than his own Stalinist instincts that a grandson must disown a grandparent to claim defamation of his good name) and knows nothing about Slavic culture. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:24, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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RobSmith, you wrote about Bill Browder: "Continuing a family tradition, Bill Browder is the sworn enemy of the global anti-communist movement, exemplified by Browder's rift with Vladimir Putin."
 
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Where is your evidence that he "is the sworn enemy of the global anti-communist movement"? I asked politely for it. You essentially replied, "Well, his granddaddy was a communist".  That is a [[guilt by association]] logical fallacy and it is also unbiblical as per Ezekiel 18:19-23.
 
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Have some consideration for Andy and don't purposefully put him in jeopardy for a lawsuit. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:43, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Put the Fact tag in as you are supposed to do, not edit war. I have the information. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:53, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Bill_Browder&action=rollback&from=Conservative&token=cb2f38daa97dd61edd9f034c29cea130%2B%5C Continues edit warring, trolling]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:58, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::RobSmith, you are required to have more evidence than "His granddaddy was a communist", therefore he is a diehard communist. You're being illogical. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:14, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Hang the Fact tag. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:16, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Hang the fact tag. If it needs more context, more context will be added. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:29, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Bill_Browder&action=rollback&from=Conservative&token=cb2f38daa97dd61edd9f034c29cea130%2B%5C More edit warring and trolling]. I have lost at least 2 hours now of productive editing. He knows the proper thing to do is hang the Fact tag. This is nothing but trolling intended to inconvenience me. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:35, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Bill_Browder&action=rollback&from=Conservative&token=cb2f38daa97dd61edd9f034c29cea130%2B%5C Still edit warring and trolling.] Andy, do something, please? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:48, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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RobSmith, you can pick your friends, but you can't pick your grandfathers. Deny this truth and lose all credibility. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:51, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:In the larger scheme of things, we'll probably at [https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/8/7419026/ be at war with Russia by Monday], so that will give you something else to troll me with that you do not know, understand, or have any personal interest in. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:09, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:But Yah Team! USA! LGBT! USA!, even though we're out of ammo and whatever weapons we have are proven junk. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:12, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Heil Biden! Heil Zelensky! Is that what you want to hear? You may soon get your wish. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:14, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::I put the fact template in the Bill Browder article as per your request. If you don't provide a citation that supports your claim, I will free to remove your claim from the [[Bill Browder]] article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:22, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::{{Personal remark removed}} —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Saturday, 20:21, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Andy, this unfair, that a rank malicious editor can try to force me to give up [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk%3ABill_Browder&diff=1979719&oldid=1979703 confidential sources to satisfy his own amusement.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:03, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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*Maybe if Conservapedia would stop trying to replicate every idea on a rat nest that has proven to be a bad one we wouldn’t have as many trolls? What’s next, elimination of CheckUser so that one troll like Colonel Sanders can have 20 personas. 🤦🏼‍♂️ [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 10:56, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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{{See also|Conservapedia:Bad faith editing}}
 
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*User:Conserative considers other Conservapedia editors "enemies":
 
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[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:03, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:You did that to yourself, and have no one to blame but yourself after viciously slandering fellow Conservapedians as "Nazis." Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword (Mattthew 26:52)—you thus reap the fruits of your iniquity. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 23:15, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::It's uncivil conduct. If you wanna call other editors' "enemies", take it off wiki. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:25, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Of course a low-level agitator like you who slanders other users as "Nazi symps" would know a lot about uncivil conduct, seeing the extent at which you put it into practice. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 23:47, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::Actually, Conservapedia went down and I was not able to finish my reply to LT in my Conservapedia inbox expeditiously. I certainly don't see you as enemy - despite your past malevolence towards me. See: [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/mail#I_see_the_loser.E2.84.A2_is_still_grasping_at_straws My reply to LT]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:48, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::Oh, Conservapedia was down for a moment? The site was functioning fine for me; how long did it last for you? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 23:53, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::::It was intermittent. It was happening for about an hour or so. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:06, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::::::(ec) It was probably User:Conservative's  [[spam]]ing [[Talk:BRICS%2B]], in violation of [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Teamwork]], that caused Gateway Timeouts like it did me. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:11, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::::(ec) LT, an enemy is defined as an enemy, a nazisymp, while a pejorative, is not necessarily defined as an enemy by all people. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:59, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::::We are commanded by [[Christ]] to love one another, even our enemies. Satan is supposed to be our only enemy. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:01, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::::So for a Christian, calling another human being an "enemy" by name makes the offender either a liar, or else someone deeply deceived by Satan. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:03, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::::The Apostle Paul told Elymas the sorcerer: "O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?" (Acts 13:10) —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 00:24, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::::::So a Christian can call a non-Christian a demon. Hmm, something to think about. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:44, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Like I said, my full post was: "(But as I told you privately, I don't think RobSmith is an enemy. He is more of a person who tries to be an annoyance, but fails due to the ineptness and childishness of his antics. See: [https://b2bstorytelling.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/influencer_quadrant.jpg Friend, ally, annoyer or adversary quadrant])".[https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/mail#I_see_the_loser.E2.84.A2_is_still_grasping_at_straws] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])
 
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:Too late, too bad. Your [[malicious editing]] has been documented. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:12, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::I just made another update: My post now reads: "By the way, Conservapedia was having intermittent problems for me as far as my access to editing while I was posting the above posts, I was able to post the full edits just now. For example, the above post now reads: "I think that it is best if  I don't engage with RobSmith on geopolitics until 2030 (That is if I choose to engage with him again which at this point seems doubtful)." [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:11, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Oh, "Too late. Too bad." I am trembling in my boots. '''Sarcasm alert:''' I expect my red phone line to Andy to start ringing any minute with an angry Andy Schlafly on the other end. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:16, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:(ec) Here's how the system works: I can forgive you for your malicious attitude toward me, and I already have, but [[God]]'s probably still a little pissed off. So you have to take that up with him. Don't blame me. I didn't make these rules. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:19, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::And RobS, I have caught you lying at this wiki. Like your claiming that corporately footnotes said something that they did not (See: [[Talk:Karen Dawisha]]).
 
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::And [[User: SamHB]] said that he doesn't why I continue to engage with you.[https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:SamHB#New_section.2C_missive_for_Cons.] User: LT agrees and says that I should mute you.[https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/mail#I_see_the_loser.E2.84.A2_is_still_grasping_at_straws]
 
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::So if you're angry that people like User: LT and User: SamHB say that engaging with you is rather pointless and [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/mail#I_see_the_loser.E2.84.A2_is_still_grasping_at_straws I have recently come to the conclusion that they are right], you should not be angry. You brought it on yourself. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:26, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::(ec) Bla bla bla. I was winging it at Karen Dawisha. I haven't put the time in yet to destroy your garbage.
 
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:::In this instance, unlike yourself, I have an intention to actually read the book myself, not peddle someone else's [[slander]], as is wont your habit.
 
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:::Btw, you don't seem so concerned about Andy getting sued by Putin as you were by Bill Browder. Honestly, do you really think we all, including me and Andy, are just fools? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:33, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::And your use of [[flattery]] on Andy is comical and ridiculous. Bet you $10 he wishes you'd stop embarrassing both of you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:33, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::WTH makes you think I'm angry about anything? or at anybody? The only thing that makes me angry, angry enough to scream over the telephone, is [[stupid]]ity. And [[ignorance]] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:35, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::I remember the voice call several months back: Conservative simultaneously connected with you and I, and I could overhear your endlessly repetitive screeching rambles about me which were incredibly misleading and hypocritical. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 00:47, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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RobS, I don't know why you are so angry that I have a cordial relationship with Andy. And your recent anger that Andy and I are going to have another friendly game of chess was over the top, absurd bitterness.
 
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People don't like engaging with bitter and contentious people. And I am no exception to this rule. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:45, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:True! —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 00:48, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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(ec) Lol, I'm splitting my sides laughing at the way you think.
 
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Look, I will concede, you do have some research skills that could actually be improved (if you ever were willing to listen to another human being). We need , for example, a [[SWIFT]] network article. Why don't you work on something like that, rather than pee up a rope with crap you don't understand, thinking your malicious attitude toward me is harming me? You may actually learn something about global politics, global economics, and US [[foreign policy]] past, present and future, rather than the pretentious, trite garbage you waste hundreds of hours on that only makes you look like a programmed, robotic fool? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:52, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:[EC] Meanwhile, you copy/paste the same blocks of text across numerous articles in lengthy sections that are a bore to read. And if that's not bad enough, much of the content is written in a manner that renders it ruthlessly mocked as if it's the left-wing counterpart of [[The Babylon Bee]]. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 00:55, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::I know my research is being read and used by the right people. I've added 50 items to [[Conservapedia proven right]] in the past 2 years. Today's headlines i uploaded to CP three years ago, in most cases. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:59, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Do the math: 50 items in 2 years is 1 every 2 weeks. What makes me angry is, User:Conservative wasting my time and slowing that down. Sooner or later, Andy will see that. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:01, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::User:Conmservative does not have a record to match that. In fact, his is negative. Now, he could actually help to improve CP's record and add to [[Conservapedia proven right]], if he dropped his malicious attitude toward other people and decided to become a cooperative editor. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:03, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Like I said, a significant amount of research shows that people who make political pronouncements and predictions and are good at it use [[critical thinking]] and actively try to falsify their ideas/predictions (See: [[Essay: Why did so many self-appointed geopolitics experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]). What they often do is keep a record and try to learn from their mistakes. I politely asked you to provide me some of the mistakes you have made in relation to your political pronouncements/predictions and received no reply from you. Instead, you falsely claimed that you don't make political predictions and I demonstrated that this was untrue by showing you some of your past political predictions. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:22, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::(ec) You think I don't understand critical thinking? Look at the [[Frankfurt School]] or [[Herbert Marcuse]] articles. Or [[Franz Leopold Neumann]] (a founder of the West German state, which was translated into German for the German wiki). I'm way ahead of you (don't mean to boast). I understand critical thinking from both sides.
 
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::::I'm not in the business of forecasting or making predictions. First and foremost of all, I'm into history. Back 10 years ago, i got so tired of Ratvandals pestering me about what I thought about [[Sarah Palin]], I finally decided to abandon historical research and writing and focus on being a contemporary chronicler. I've given up hope of ever returning to my first love, history, and take what I know of history and apply it to contemporary events (like the idiots who think they can get way calling Putin a communist or the Russian Federation a re-creation of the USSR WITHOUT being called Nazis).
 
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::::You finally, today or yesterday, admitted the world is in a transitionary period. Fine. Why don't you apply your interest and research skills (which needs a little tweeking) to working with me to map out where we are today, and what are the likely scenarios we could be headed into (rather than pursuing these pointless, personal vendettas)?
 
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::::I uploaded much, very much information on what has now ultimately become the [[SWIFT]] network. It originated in the 1980s. And I find that info fascinating (although I haven't looked at any of it in 7 or 8 years now). But that background information would be an eyeopener for anyone helping out on the SWIFT network.
 
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::::[[BRICS]] is the alternative now to the SWIFT network. And as the SWIFT network faulters in coming years, it will affect your living standards, and US politics. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:43, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Trying to work with you is a fool's errand. You always have to be right and fight tooth and nail for even the simplest of corrections. Discussion is impossible given your liberal use of hide templates, rude reversions and engaging in personal attacks both on wiki and off wiki. And then you try to feign that you are a very cordial person which nobody believes.
 
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[[User: SamHB]],  [[User: LT]] and User: ConwayIII are right about you being totally unreasonable. Your recent "[https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:ConwayIII#The_Chronicles_of_Captain_Cauldron:_Gentleman_.26_Diarist Captain Couldron issue]" which is an ongoing discussion at [[User talk:ConwayIII]] is another example of you loathing to admit engaging in bad judgment. And User: Karajou, for all his faults, made some legitimate criticisms of you. And Andy Schafly, the owner of this website desysoped you previously which my fellow Admins agreed with at the time.
 
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I did help get you your adminship back, but now you are once again trying to make Conservapedia your personal fiefdom. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:02, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Okay. I made my case. I want to improve CP. You want to pursue personal vendettas (as you did when I got desysoped back in 2012 or whenever and I didn't defend myself properly enough against your false, baseless, lies and accusations that I was Ratvandal. I thought innocent till proven guilty (which you never did, instead you rounded up a mob of conspirators, half of them Ratvandals themselves), but I found out the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I offered an olive branch now, but you prefer your petty personal vendettas and conspiracies against other editors.
 
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:Incidentally, I recall when we first had a series of phone calls back a few years ago, you were very apologetic for getting me desyoped several times on several calls, and I repeated over and over again, "forget it". But now you keep bringing it up. Yes, that does make me angry, your two-facedness and spitting on my forgiveness. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:16, September 15, 202r3 (EDT)
 
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::You promised [[User: LT]] that you were going to transform Conservapedia into a place of great cordiality. You broke that promise. Instead, you have become a roadblock to cordiality. As soon as people disagree with you, you become very unpleasant. And given your penchant for illogical thinking and fighting tooth and nail about admitting mistakes, of course there are going to be times when people disagree with you.
 
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::Anyways 2030 will be here in no time. And it does appear that in 2030 and beyond, it is going to be a much tougher environment for China/Russia cheerleaders such as yourself (See: [[Essay: Russia's economy and gas and oil profits will be BADLY damaged when China's economy declines]]).  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:33, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Now this is EXCACTLY the kind of trolling that does make me angry. (a) You speaking on things you have no clue about; (b) LT willfully violating rules that he knows better.
 
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:::[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3ADanAP Does THIS look cordial to you?] LT handing out a 30 DAY block, without warning, for some minor infraction that could be fixed with a simple revert? Blocking an editor Andy sent an email to you and me saying he was glad the user is back? Is that LT being cordial? Was LT cordial when he reversed an Admin's block? Was he cordial when he trashed talk me in the edit summary?
 
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:::Are you being cordial when talk crap like you are now?
 
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:::Pardon me, but yes I am angry right now, cause '''I just realized that ''I accidently reblocked'' DanAP for 30 days''' rather than unblocking DanAP a second time after LT's willful violation of the rules.
 
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:::LT has the same horse crap, vengeful attitude toward other human beings that you do.
 
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:::Yes, I am angry enough right now to go block LT for 30 days for MY mistake. Of course, I won't do that. But LT, if you read this, you need to straighten up right now cause I'm getting real tired of your [[trolling]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 03:55, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::<span style="font-size: 180%; font-family:Brush Script MT">''The loser''</span>™ says what now? Oh well, keep raging all you like—I really could care less about your degenerate fist-poundings. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 09:37, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:(ec) If you don't want to do the [[SWIFT]] network, why don't work on making [[Coronavirus#Decoupling]] a stand-alone article, rather than another one of your anti-Rob screeds? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:35, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::There was a time when I regretted getting you desysoped for pesterfesting my user talk page, but now I don't feel much regret. Pretty much my only regret now is that I allowed you to cause me to be very annoyed about it at the time. In the past, I thought you created some good content, but my recent brief foray into your work shows me that you do not (Previously, a friend of mine told me that you created some good content on the [[Soviet Union]]). But people get wiser and God does work in people's lives and now your lame attempts at pestering me rolls off my back like water off a duck's back.
 
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::I wish you had gotten wiser with age, but unfortunately you have grown worse. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:45, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Precisely. As RobSmith's age increases, so too does his senility. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 09:34, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:If you ever get interested in doing the [[SWIFT]] network, it was built using the stolen PROMIS software from [[INSLAW]] that Hillary Clinton was the intellectual property lawyer for in the 1980s. ([[Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International#Inslaw_Inc_and_the_PROMIS_software]]). Today it's used by 12,000 banks worldwide, and is the system that prohibits Russians from doing business in dollars worldwide, enforcing [[Russian sanctions]], and why [[BRICS]] came into existence to bybass the SWIFT network and get around sanctions. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:53, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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*[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AEssay%3A_The_United_States_will_be_the_leading_power_in_the_world_for_the_foreseeable_future&diff=1984995&oldid=1984894 Extensive trolling event spread over 2 days in emails, phone calls and discussion regarding his pastor]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 16:38, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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*[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAschlafly&diff=1985450&oldid=1985433 Bad faith editing:] Adds 4 sentences to earlier post (without adding the timestamp) to obscure being called out for the [[narcissistic]] self-references of "I" eleven times in 7 sentences. Altering a previous posting to change context is specifically spelled out in [[Conservapedia:Editing_etiquette#Interacting with other editors on talk pages]]. This is one of the most common types of [[Bad faith editing]], and User:Conservative is well aware of it. At present, there are no other active editors in Conservapedia who habitually engage in this type breach. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:21, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
 
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*[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User%3AConservative%2Fmail&diff=1985615&oldid=1984799 Locked one of his talk pages] moments before pledging to open it. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:RobSmith&diff=prev&oldid=1985620] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 09:47, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:*[[Trolling]] the [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia_talk:Team_CP&curid=179311&diff=1985638&oldid=1985351 Team CP talk page]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 09:58, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:*Tampering with [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:RobSmith/Collection_of_trolling_threads_and_misuse_of_source_materials&curid=178920&diff=1985595&oldid=1985293 other editors user space.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:00, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:*Repeated vandalism of this page.
 
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Yeah, American certainly has a greatly terrible record on moral issues, having enabled the mass murder of millions of unborn children for decades. That's not even mentioning its long history of war crimes across the world for the purpose of its own power, since it "speaks like a dragon." (Rev. 13:11) —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 12:42, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:It's all in the title. User:Conservative claims to be opposed to Americans excess military spending and interventionism. So that leaves only [[Social Darwinism]] to explain his views. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:54, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Greatness is relative. Regardless, if you feel you have a great case concerning your position, feel free to create the essay [[Essay: Why America is NOT great]]. Best wishes and godspeed. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:17, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Andy, please intervene. This trolling has gone on for 6 hours. I thought we had it resolved. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:42, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Just put the article on Auto Read. It'll take less than 5 minutes. You decide if it is not well researched or slanderous. [[Bill Browder]].  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:44, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Andy, please put a stop to this incessant trolling. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Bill_Browder&diff=prev&oldid=1979796] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:55, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:This is so simple to resolve. Provide a single reliable source saying that Bill Browder is communist and then reinsert your claim. So far you haven't even provided a single source - let alone a reliable source. You haven't even provided a blog post or social media post for your claim. You have found zero sources for your claim that Bill Browder is a communist. This is inappropriate behavior. You can't make things up out of thin air merely because you want them to be true or just because you want to smear someone.
 
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:I am not a Bill Browder fan, but we shouldn't just make things up.  What are we going to put next in the article that Browder is a pedophile or axe murderer - even if we have no proof of these things?
 
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:Conservapedia bills itself as "The Trustworthy Encyclopedia". Let's try to live up to that. Truth matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:03, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Andy, please put a stop to this. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Bill_Browder&diff=1979802&oldid=1979800] it is 7 1/2 hours now of trolling. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:29, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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What is the issue here? That Bill Browder is not a red diaper baby and Vladimir Putin is not a Christian, determined to keep Russia Christian?
 
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Because this doesn't fit with vendetta, not against Putin or Russia, but against me personally. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:34, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:RobSmith, you can stop engaging in the manipulative tactic of playing the victim. I have called Andy. I also let him know via email about your latest fiasco of you claiming a source said something when the source claimed the exact opposite of what you claimed. This is the second time I have caught you doing this. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:42, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Did you get my email? The problem is, you sound like [[Kamala Harris]] when you speak on Russia, Ukraine, or Putin. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:01, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::RobSmith, please provide a single source that Bill Browder is a communist. Your own source says that he is a capitalist. You haven't even provided a blog post or social media as a source for your contention that he is communist. Zero. Nada. Show some self-respect please. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:29, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::Where does it say he's a communist? You are trolling again. I fixed your inquiry hours ago. Andy, please put a stop to this. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:33, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::There is not a single [https://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Conservative edit here since 15:39] that is not a trolling edit. it is now 23:30. That is almost 8 full hours. {{Personal remark removed}} [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:40, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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LT said of your screaming: "Also, as for that user in question, Conservative noted that he yelled on phone calls. I can confirm this because I was once on a phone call overhearing that said individual screeching agitprop that was repetitive to the point of being pathetically boring. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 18:02, September 3, 2023 (EDT)"
 
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Please get a grip. People are tiring of your drama queen antics, your malevolence and your penchant to mislead/lie. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:03, September 9, 2023 (EDT)}}
 
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'''The most recent update: This is another example of this editor trying to make a source claim something it doesn't say:'''
 
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:"Continuing a family tradition, Bill Browder is the red diaper baby nemesis of [[Vladimir Putin]].<ref>[https://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/28/opinions/bill-browder-opinion-weiss/index.html Bill Browder, from red diaper baby to Putin’s nemesis], By Michael Weiss, CNN, July 28, 2017</ref> Modern Russia is determined that the [[atheist]]ic communist [[ideology]] will never dominate Russia again.<ref>[https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/07/28/putin-christianity-foundation-russian-nationhood-cultural-identity/ Putin: Christianity is the foundation of the Russian state], by [[Associated Press]], July 28, 2018.</ref>"
 
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User: RobSmtith, your own source says: "But by odd coincidence, Earl Browder’s grandson Bill, a Red diaper baby turned '''capitalist'''"."[https://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/28/opinions/bill-browder-opinion-weiss/index.html]  (bolding added for emphasis).
 
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Notice that your own source indicates that Bill Browder is capitalist - not a communist. This is another example of you trying to make a source claim something it doesn't say
 
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User: RobSmith, find a reputable conservative or right-wing source saying Bill Browder is communist if you wish to make this claim in the article. So far you haven't provided '''any source''' indicating that Bill Browder is a communist. 
 
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This is not a reasonable approach. You are intentionally misleading the reader. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:44, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
 
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*User:Conservative makes gossiping allegations against another editor and refuses to allow the editor to defend himself. [https://www.conservapedia.com/File:Guilty_til_proven_innocent.PNG' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:57, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Everytime User:Conservative goes on one of his all-day trolling rampages, our active users become inactive. They probably don't want to get caught up in it (except User:LT, who enjoys fanny the flames). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:32, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
 
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== Re: Someone attempting to bully me on my talk page. I very politely told this person that I prefer not to communicate with them anymore.  ==
 
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[[File:Wambulance.jpeg|right|300px|thumb|Waaa! Boo Hoo! Only I get to troll Andy's talk page! Waaa!]]
 
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[[User: RobSmith]] is attempting to bully me on my talk page.
 
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As you know, as per the Conservapedia page [[Conservapedia:How Conservapedia Differs from Wikipedia]], "We respect users' control over their own talk pages as much as possible. Wikipedia treats users' own talk pages like government or public property, and it becomes a place for Wikipedia editors to bully users."
 
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I very politely told User: RobSmith that I prefer not to communicate with him anymore. He is not respecting my cordial request.
 
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If you could put an end to this unfortunate situation, I would appreciate it. This attempted bullying is not only against Conservapedia's rules, it is also un-American. The U.S. Constitution does allow for freedom of association.
 
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Please request that User: RobSmith respect my user talk page and respect my [[User:Conservative/mail]] as well.
 
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I am sending you a copy of this request to your email and sending an email copy to User: RobSmith as well. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:21, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
 
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===Someone attempting to bully me on my talk page. I very politely answered his questions===
 
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:I very politely told this person to stop pesterfestering the other day. He continued trolling with reams and reams of hypertext. I've already Archived at least[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARobSmith&diff=1979963&oldid=1978964 3,800 bytes of his trolling on my talk page] that I do not have the time to read '''''even''''' after we supposedly reached a "detente" after a two-hour phone conversation. Now, when I finally answer one of his trolling complaints (which he posted at least 3 times on various pages), he complains to you, Andy. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 16:36, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Andy, what User: RobSmith claims is not true. You can see for yourself by examining the log record for this morning at https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative/mail&action=history [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:43, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::The stuff with the Ezekiel passage he spammed on three different pages Friday. Now he whines cause I finally got around to answering him. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:42, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Hey, it's already posted above from 2 days ago. You are trolling and bullying right now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 16:46, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Andy, this is insane. That he interprets ''How CP differs from WP'' as meaning he can troll people on article talk pages, their user talk pages, in Essays and Debates, with redundant spam postings over and over and over again, for hours on end, and his talk page is sacrosanct that no one can ask, "What are you doing?" [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 16:51, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::If we did reach "detente" as he proclaimed to the world at 2 AM (MDT), it was only cause [https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:RobSmith/Archive_14#We_appear_to_have_solved_our_Bill_Browder_dispute._I_am_glad_this_occurred. I was worn down by his bullying after a trollfest] that began 8 AM MDT. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 16:57, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
 
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He is now defending [[liberal democracy]] for one purpose and one purpose only, to troll me. In late July he was trash talking it; he spent the entire month of August (more than 90 hours in one 6-day stretch) trolling me with this garbage. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:05, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
 
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He has no personal interest or understanding of the subject. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:06, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::This whole Essay, [[Essay: Cut toxic people out of your life and replace them with edifying achievers who inspire you]], if you read it, is apparently very [[narcissistic]], which, according to him, is one symptom of [[Dark Triad personality traits]]. Essay space should be used to share ideas with everyone on a conservative wiki, not a place to pout and plot vengeance against people one imagines are "bullying" you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:27, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::And it should be fairly obvious he regards me as a "toxic person" he wants to "cut out of his life" with all the bullying and harassment threads he's created on Andy's talk page directed at me. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:33, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:All the ''How CP differs from WP'' control over user talk page means is, you can revert other's postings at will. It does not mean you can wall yourself off from society cause you are too good to engage with other human beings. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:41, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
 
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== The editor who said he doesn't have a good grasp as far as the social science of psychology is messing around with psychology articles out of spite and trying to inject mere opinion ==
 
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Andy, you told RobSmith that the [[Dark Triad personality traits]] article appears to be a good article. Three Conservapedia editors agreed with you related to RobSmith's attempt to delete the article.
 
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RobSmith, the editor who said he doesn't have a good grasp as far as the social science of psychology, is messing around with my psychology articles out of spite. And he is trying to inject his mere opinions as facts. That is against Conservapedia Commandment #1 which is "Everything must be verifiable and true". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:25, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Oh, Conservapedia's a [[mobocracy]] now, huh? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:50, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Since RobSmith is being very disruptive, I suggest a few possible solutions if he chooses to persist: '''1)''' Insist that he source every statement so he doesn't inject his mere opinions '''2)''' Give him a topical ban on editing psychology articles. '''3)''' Strip him of his Admin rights again. As you know, he was stripped of his Admin rights previously.
 
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:Conservapedia needs to have standards in terms of behavior and in terms of not injecting mere opinion into articles. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:30, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::P.S. As you know, despite Karajou's adamant insistence that RobSmith be banned from Conservapedia, I stood up for RobSmith.  On the other hand, nobody is above the law/rules when it comes the Conservapedia Commandments and our rules of decorum.  If RobSmith persists in this behavior, then some disciplinary measure needs to be taken. Power corrupts is a principle that conservatives agree on. And RobSmith cannot be allowed to be a tyrant. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:46, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:[[Machiavellianism (psychology)]] is [[psychobabble]]. User:Conservative has persistently used that [[ad hominem ]] attack against me on this page. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:50, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Andy, he's trolling me and my user page right now, after having flatly refused to discuss problem articles on article pages. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:52, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::But I have criticized [[Niccolò Machiavelli]] and your love of him. But Machiavelli is a person and not a psychological theory/malady such as [[Machiavellianism (psychology)]]. Don't confuse psychology with historical people. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:54, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::I did try to have discussions on talk pages. And then I brought it on your talk page to let you know about the article talk page post. But you were insisting on engaging in revert wars. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:01, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::By the way, the last time I pushed hard for you to be disciplined, I was successful. I prefer not to push hard again and for you to behave more reasonably and cordially. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:03, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Over <s>2,000</s> 3,800 trolling edit bytes on my user page in the past 3 hours. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:RobSmith&curid=164865&action=history]
 
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:*User:Conservative since August 2 has accused me, User:RobSmith, of "Machiavellianism" in [[ad hominem]] attacks 24 times on Aschlafly/talk page. [https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:User_complaints/Archive/Archive5] Pardon me, but I only see maliciousness in these attacks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:21, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::There is a difference between the political worldview and general worldview of Niccolò Machiavelli and the psychological issue of [[Machiavellianism (psychology)]].
 
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::I am giving you credit in understanding the issue. Don't intentionally conflate the issue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:38, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Bottomline: [[Machiavellianism (psychology)]] is [[psychobabble]]. There's no way around that. And if one does a [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns120=1&ns121=1&ns122=1&ns123=1&ns124=1&ns125=1&ns126=1&ns127=1&search=Machiavellian search of the term in Conservapedia], you've used it for years to attack your enemies. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:48, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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== My psychology article editing: My interest in psychology,  the psychology articles and abnormal psychology/pathology ==
 
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I know we talked on the telephone about my psychology articles, but I didn't tell you something important. So I am doing that now.
 
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One of the reasons I created articles and expanded articles as far as the Conservapedia psychology articles is due to my professional life.
 
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I work as a Producer/booker for a leading podcast (top 1/2 percent of all podcasts in listenership). And one of the areas we cover is the true crime genre. I find criminology and psychological pathology interesting. And I enjoy listening to the podcasts of the people I book in the true crime area - especially the authors who went into the cells of prisoners to interview them or did detailed analyses of these criminals.
 
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In addition, I work in some fields where one has to very much understand human behavior in order to be successful.
 
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So I lot of my editing in these areas was related to my personal interest and study/knowledge of these areas. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:34, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:If one looks at your [[Subclinical (psychology)]] article, in the first three words it becomes apparent you don't distinguish between psychology and psychiatry.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:39, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Wrong. You don't understand the difference. I explained it on the talk page. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:42, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::P.S. One of the things that makes wikis successful is people editing things that they have an interest in and have gained knowledge in. A self-admitted unknowledgeable person about a topic who lacks cordiality should not be allowed to run amok. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:41, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::The opening line here: "According to the psychiatric journal BMC Psychiatry: "Subthreshold psychiatric symptoms"..." shows you have no understanding of Subclinical (psychology). And talking to you, you apparently have no interest in understanding Subclinical (psychology). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:53, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Psychiatry is a discipline of [[medical science]] that uses medicine (Like drugs) and the social science of psychology. That is why the "Subclinical (psychiatry)" belongs under "Subclinical (psychology)". All psychiatrists are medical doctors (MDs). It is the psychology that defines the term. The drug part is not involved.
 
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I covered the material on abnormal psychology that I thought was interesting. So I don't expect to create any more content in this area. Any new content related to psychology will be related to cognitive psychology (learning) or psychology related to motivation, self-control, conscientiousness. In other words, psychology related to human performance. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:34, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:LOL, I'll hold you to that. Btw, I just noticed [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Dark_Triad_personality,_toxic_personality_or_demon_possessed%3F this new piece.] You snuck that one in under my nose today without me noticing until now.
 
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:When we complete life's journey, and you and your fans and critics look back upon your [[ouvré]] and wonder about the genius of your inspiration, I hope they find something nearing the [[truth]] and the meaning of being human, and not just another [[Aleister Crowley]] wannabee. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:48, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Actually, you are the one who accused me of having a demon - despite you having little to no knowledge about exorcisms or demonology. I cite you claiming about me: "He's demonic. Even the demons believe in God, tremble, as the bible says.  [[User:RobSmith|'''nobs''']]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|'''''Viva la Revolución!''''']]</sup> 20:26, 25 July 2011 (UTC)"[https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Conservapedia_talk:What_is_going_on_at_CP%3F&diff=prev&oldid=838017]
 
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::At least I cited a clergy/theologian with actual exorcism experience when it comes to exorcism. And I certainly did not accuse someone of having a demon who I hardly know - like you did. This is another example of you claiming something is a fact without adequate evidence. Just because you wish something to be true or wish to smear someone, doesn't give you a license to pretend something is true. Armchair theology/demonology is rather juvenile. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:57, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::We are commanded to judge the spirits (1 John 4:1). Discerning of spirits is a gift of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:10). Faith without works is dead. (James 2:24) My exercising my gift of the Holy Spirit is my works (1 Corinthians 12:7).
 
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:::''You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!'' (James 2:19)
 
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:::Anti-atheism is not the same as preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Even a Satanist can be anti-atheist. You and I, User:Conservative, discussed this on the phone many, many years ago. I was left with the impression then you were not listening (you seemingly were too obsessed with pursuing a personal vendetta). There is nothing malevolent in what I said, and what I was quoted as saying. The spiritual discernment the Lord has entrusted to me is borne out by the scripture. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 09:30, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Wow. Nuff said. I'll pray for you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:23, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
 
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I see that RobSmith and Conservative are endlessly bickering over some articles concerning psychology topics. From what I notice, Conservative's work appears to be mostly researched well. While I differ with his writing style, it appears that his content is quite informative and educational. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 23:05, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:You're a day late and dollar short, my friend. We've moved on to [[demonology]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:10, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Andy, Please ask [[User:Conservative]] to cease his relenmtless [[trolling]] of me now.
 
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Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 14:24, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
 
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|content=:You got a fair point. We are indeed at the final stages of the end times, and the culminating [https://www.newsweek.com/russia-putin-moscow-west-economics-world-order-1726686 Putinist] [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/xi-putin-pledge-new-world-order-chinese-leader-leaves-russia-rcna76048 New] [https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/post-reports/putin-and-xi-want-a-new-world-order/ World] [https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/mar/25/the-putin-and-xi-new-world-order/ Order] will pave the way for the Antichrist. Let's connect the dots together: why is [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/pope-francis-praise-russian-empire-ukraine-putin-rcna102283 Pope] [https://www.politico.eu/article/pope-francis-nato-cause-ukraine-invasion-russia/ Francis] [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-russia-ukraine-war-russian-imperial-heritage-youth-remarks/ supporting] [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-14/pope-repeats-view-nato-positioning-was-factor-in-russia-war-move#xj4y7vzkg Russia]? Because the son of perdition's power will be an outgrowth of anti-globalist sentiment that paves the way for the syncretic, populist coalition of illiberal agitators who will soon take control of governments.
 
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{{cquote|And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.|||Rev. 17:11–12}}
 
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:The Vatican realignment is concurrent with the rising tide of the antithesis which will soon take control amidst the falling away. (2 Thess. 2:3) As the apostate Protestant ideology known as "[[Christian Nationalism]]" gains traction and eventually seizes control of governmental civil power, demands will be rapidly promulgated for Sunday rest—presented to the Catholics and apostate Protestants of the right as "restoring Christian morality" and to the left as reducing consumption to fight climate change.
 
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{{cquote|And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.|||Rev. 13:15–18}}
 
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:—[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 15:42, September 14, 2023 (EDT)}}
 
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=User:Conservative redux=
 
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[https://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Conservative User:Conservative contribs] beginning at [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:RobSmith&diff=prev&oldid=1984484 15:33, 20 September 2023] onward.
 
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User:Conservative has violated his own pledge which he made in front of multiple witnesses not to contact User:RobSmith. The phone contact with User:RobSmith which User:Conservative initiated was full of discombobulated ramblings about how User:Conservative helping his pastor/undertaker get married will help improve [[Conservapedia]]'s Google traffic. These ramblings were confirmed in an email User:Conservative sent to User:RobSmith and purportedly to Andy Schlafly. A day later, User:Conservative admitted to RobSmith and other witnesses that he had made the whole thing up and violated his own pledge not to harass User:RobSmith with phone or email contact. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 15:22, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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==Waaa! Boo Hoo!==
 
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[[File:Wambulance.jpeg|right|300px|thumb|Waaa! Boo Hoo!]]
 
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Andy,
 
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User:Conservative placed [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:RobSmith&diff=1984484&oldid=1984483 this on my talk page] the other day. I accepted his phone call and it was nothing but rambling nonsense which, according to him, he relayed to you in an email. It has now resulted in two days of trolling, as can be [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AEssay%3A_The_United_States_will_be_the_leading_power_in_the_world_for_the_foreseeable_future&diff=1984995&oldid=1984894 recapped here.]
 
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Please advise him to stop. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:17, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Conservapedia probably doesn't have anyone willing to drive the wiki wambulance on a 24/7 basis. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 17:20, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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User:Conservative and myself agreed on the phone the other day that traffic and activity on the site falls when there are these ongoing internal disputes between he and I. Yet the evidence shows the purpose of his call to me was to generate a dispute. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:46, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:That reminds me, I should get back to expanding my last definite project here on Conservapedia. Maybe later in a slight bit. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 17:47, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::I predict that Andy will once again ignore RobSmith.  RobSmith doesn't understand that this erodes his credibility and doesn't build it. Has RobS read Aesop's Fable of "The boy who cried wolf"? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:50, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::You told [https://www.conservapedia.com/File:Love_triangle.PNG Andy you wanted to help your pastor] so he could get married (Sep 20). You told us this morning [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Essay:_The_United_States_will_be_the_leading_power_in_the_world_for_the_foreseeable_future&diff=1984951&oldid=1984950 your pastor is married] (Sep 21).
 
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:::Or did you lie when you said you sent that information to Andy? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:57, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Andy, he now is on a vandal spree to hide tens of thousands of bytes of his [[bad faith editing]]. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:User_complaints&action=history][https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:User_complaints&action=history] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:11, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:And what does this alleged pastor have to do with me or Google traffic, for which you urgently requested phone contact to troll hours of my time? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:26, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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== Gossip someone wants to inject into Conservapedia.  ==
 
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If you could do something about the recent spate of gossip that RobSmith wants to inject into Conservapedia, it would be much appreciated. Conservapedia certainly doesn't want to embarrass itself due to gossip.
 
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I know when you founded this website you were very adamant about Conservapedia not having gossip. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:02, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::'''User:Conservative:''' Ace McWicked appears to be a divorced alcoholic who is an atheist who sleeps around with a lot of women and he recently claimed that he died due to some drug he took (If I recall correctly, it was a case of illegal drug use which required paramedics).
 
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::'''RobS:''' User:Conservative's detailed description of Ace's personal life (he left out the French Fry eating), my suspicions are true. Ace knows and understands as much about User:Conservative as User:Conservative knows and understands Ace. And it further adds to my suspicions that User:Conservative is acting like a jilted lover after Ace cut him off completely, is now clinging to me to give his life some purpose and meaning.
 
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Andy is going to look at the issue of you gossiping so there is no need for me to address the scope of your recent gossiping.
 
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Also, during your recent spate of gossip you wanted to use Ace McWicked as some kind of witness about me so it was certainly valid for me to question any testimony you brought forth from him.
 
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Regardless, Andy is looking into my charge that you are gossiping. It's too bad that you have made the bad choice of engaging in gossip. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:09, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Ace McWicked evidently is a(n internationally) prominent individual: [[Essay:_Macaroni_and_cheese,_processed_food,_and_health_risks#RationalWiki_admin_Ace_McWicked_and_the_consumption_of_the_processed_food_macaroni_and_cheese._Ace_McWicked_flouting_medical_science_and_living_an_unhealthy_lifestyle_that_could_reduce_his_longevity|RationalWiki admin Ace McWicked and the consumption of the processed food macaroni and cheese. Ace McWicked flouting medical science and living an unhealthy lifestyle that could reduce his longevity]]. And here you are gossiping about his sleeping around, illegal drug use, and health and dietary habits. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:11, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::You really need to be less impulsive and not engage in vindicative gossip spree such as this. Count to 10 or whatever you need to do. But I am positive that Andy doesn't want Conservapedia to turn into a den of gossipers so addressing this matter and stopping it now would be an excellent decision on his part. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:15, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::RobS, disagreeing with you is not trolling. This isn't RobSmithPedia.
 
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:::Furthermore, I have decided to cut off all future communication with you which is something that Andy is aware of. I know you are angry about this, but it is unfortunately merited and several Conservapedians said that my decision is the best course of action to take.
 
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:::The USA has freedom of association and your insistence on me having interaction with you is un-American. And I am putting an end to it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:24, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::Yeah, Conservapedia is not a strongman regime; it is a conservative community. RobSmith definitely has made too many unilateral decisions once Karajou departed, and many have not been helpful to the site. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 20:29, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::(ec) We need a Foreman to lead off [[Team CP]] (or even tweek the language). Would you like the honors? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:34, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::::Israeli officers lead from the front. If you want people to join Team CP, sign up for it yourself. Hopefully, others will join. At this time, I don't want to overextend myself with another commitment, but I thank you for the invitation. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:48, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::::No. I don't want to be in charge of it. We're just looking for editors who pledge to be "cooperative editors". Your application, however, we would need to take a closer look at. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:07, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::::::I can volunteer to extensively review Conservative's application. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 21:12, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::::::We want to be fair, and allow an editor to repent and show signs of [[good faith]], for example opening their talk page for good faith interaction with other editors and not whining to Andy every time he steps on a rake.
 
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:::::::::Given his attitude toward his fellow human beings, I can see why he does not extend good faith to other people, always expecting a reprieve of justice of sorts. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:09, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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I am hoping that your recent spate of gossiping was an impulsive act that you will not repeat. Sometimes people do things that they regret later. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:35, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:In all fairness, gossiping is primarily for immature teenagers, like a large bulk of peers I had to deal with on a daily basis a long time ago in my high school days. Many of them weren't trustworthy because I thought they surely would have a conscience and know better to spread rumors in a disparaging way, but nope, they proved my optimism about their character wrong. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 21:10, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Unfortunately, when RobS engages in particularly egregious behavior like gossiping or bullying, he tries to mask it by talking about cordiality, upgrading civility guidelines, and setting up something like Team CP. Unfortunately, it's just a mask to distract and try to cover up egregious behavior. Rules are only as good as their enforcement. Unfortunately, like chains, teams are sometimes only as strong as their weakest link.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:58, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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'''Look, I realize your trolling me gives your life purpose and meaning''', now let Andy decide what he wants to do. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:14, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Now let's examine User:Conservaitve's reasoning in the case of Ace McWicked. User:Conservaiteve questions Ace's veracity in a court of law '''based upon User:Conservative ''gossiping'' about Ace McWicked'''. Ace McWicked is the victim here, not the perp of gossip. However, in User:Conservatives perverted sense of justice, the victim has no right to defend himself. User:Conservative has posted this reasoning twice now, on the original page and here. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:45, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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User:Conservative really belongs working for the Democrats, [[Big Fani]], [[Fat Alvin]], [[Jack Smith]], [[Merrick Garland]] etc. As long as he can slander someone loud enough, and prevent them from defending themselves (rather than a presumption of innocence), he wins. He's done it before. Ole Ole Ole. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:50, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Let's not waste our time with a lot of tripe - especially since I voted for Trump and vote straight Republican/Conservative Party. Get a life.
 
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:And Andy doesn't even consider RobSmith to be a conservative. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:26, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::How can we believe anything you say? Caught in a lie red handed about your pastor's marital status. Why would you do that? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:28, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Now, ''Why would you [[troll]] people like this with extensive, elaborate psychotic imaginations?'' (I'm not asking you. I'm asking independent observers).
 
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:::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:34, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Let me add one final comment: Your continuous reference of "cheerleaders" in a human tragedy like war I think are sick. It's not a soccer match. You have no feeling or understanding of the human suffering imposed upon people by their society and leaders.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:00, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:"I also worked for a sales training company in the past and '''went through all their training."'''
 
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Without getting into what a "sales training company" is (for example Kirby Vacuum Cleaners), let's look at the effectiveness of User:Conservative's sales training:
 
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:"Conservapedia hasn't had a problem with '''gossip'''. Most contributors to wikis are males and most men are not given to injecting '''gossip''' about other contributors.  If you could do something about the recent spate of '''gossip''' that RobSmith wants to inject into Conservapedia, it would be much appreciated. Conservapedia certainly doesn't want to embarrass itself due to '''gossip'''. I know when you founded this website you were very adamant about Conservapedia not having '''gossip'''."
 
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I'm sold. User:Conservative sold me on the word "gossip". His sales training paid off. He used the term 'gossip" 5 times so it would stick in the prospects mind.
 
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<Disclosure: I myself am a former sales trainer (trainer, not trainee), and in one 4 year period in the early 1990s trained over 5,000 sales people who averaged $15 per hour after my training. Not a bad rate of pay when the minimum wage was $5 per hour. I have a zillion stories to tell about people I thought had little or no talent and became top producers, or people I had high hopes for who turned out be lazy slouches. Moral: Don't prejudge, give everybody a chance. I also got pretty good at picking out [[sociopath]]s (though not always) when they walked thru the door. There are lots of them is sales (IOWs, "What's in it for me?" rather than "Win-Win"). In User:Conservative's case, I could probably make him a better salesman, not just in fundamental sales but advanced technique. But he's too stubborn and uncooperative to work with other people. A Lone Wolf.
 
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For the record, I made my first cold call at the age of 4 with my brother who was 5 (my job was to stand there and look cute while he gave the pitch) and have tried to count a gross total of lifetime sales, including residuals, but gave up at $240,000,000. It becomes impossible to count when you sell continuing contracts.>
 
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:[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 03:01, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Why do I bring this up? Cause recent events have caused me to think about ethical issues. There are people in sales - probably more than any other field - who bring disrepute not just on the company, but the entire sales profession. And these aren't the people who flunk out, they tend to be highly successful. But as a sales trainer and manager, I have to watch out for them, and terminate them despite how much money they bring in to the company after being caught and warned for ethical violations. And who am I protecting? Myself? My fellow workers? the company? the public? Most of all the profession, cause as professional sales people, we deliver what people want and need, and benefit both the producer and consumer. Without us, the whole economy collapses. And a bad sales person only makes our job harder to regain the public's trust.
 
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Do I think User:Conservative is a bad sales person? Probably not. If anything, he seems to be struggling at times (I am politely saying I don't think he's been all that successful). But if I had caught him in some of the technical and ethical breaches in a sales position that I see here daily, and if he failed to live up to standards after proper warnings and instructions, he'd have been gone a long time ago - and this is my own personal motivation - not to protect the company name, but the profession.
 
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Blame CP. It has no internal management. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 03:39, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Sigh, you shouldn't leak emails. That's a Democrat//establishment/Deep State trait. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 12:09, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Oh, now you're defending [[Hillary Clinton]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:18, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::We have all sorts of technical/ethical breaches: "I am blocking your email account", "I am cutting off all contact", etc etc, etc, then he sends me a big smelly lying deceptive pile of doo doo and I'm suppose to hold it in confidence? Don't think so. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:22, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::[EC] "now you're defending Hillary Clinton"
 
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:::[https://www.asciifacepalm.com/ (credits)] —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 12:24, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Above I stated, "As long as he can slander someone loud enough, and prevent them from defending themselves (rather than a presumption of innocence), he wins. He's done it before. " He's doing it again right now.
 
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[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 13:00, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:"View or restore 28,238 deleted edits?" Oh yeah, Conservative a while ago unilaterally decided to delete Andy's talk page here, wiping out a ton of page history and hundreds of thousands of views. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 13:04, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::''Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 13:08, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Indeed. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 13:15, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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===Fixing Conservapedia's main homosexuality article and other articles so they get more search engine traffic and have a better user experience===
 
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Andy,  I sent you part of this message by email, but I added some additional material. Below is the full message to you.
 
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If a website has too many dead links or if a web page has dead links on it's not a good user experience and its bad for rankings. To the search engines, it gives the impression that the website is not as well maintained as it could be if there are too many dead links. See: [https://www.searchenginejournal.com/link-rot-solutions/349270/ Link Rot – What it Is and How it Affects Rankings].
 
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This message is about fixing Conservapedia's main [[homosexuality]] article and other Conservapedia articles so they receive more search engine traffic and have a better user experience.
 
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Webpages that are long-form content very often rank for many keywords - not just the keyword that the article is titled.
 
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There are tools that indicate the "dead links" on a page. These tools are publically available as browser addons. Users don't like dead links on pages and neither do search engines. For the Conservapedia homosexuality article, I will work on replacing any dead links with live links.
 
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I may have to do it by hand. But perhaps MediaWiki has a way to automate this (I seem to recall that it might). If not, maybe David/Andy could make the process automated. Wikipedia might have some automated way to handle this, but I am not sure.
 
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I have done computer programming professionally and I think I may be learning some additional programming skills, but at this point, I think David/Andy are more proficient programmers than me. I am rusty and I don't think the computer languages that I have programmed in would be able to automate this process.
 
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Next, this process could be done for other important Conservapedia articles as well or perhaps all of Conservapedia's articles if the process is automated.
 
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While there are tools that work with a browser to tell the dead links on a page, there are tools that will tell a webmaster where all of the dead links on a website are such as this one: https://ahrefs.com/broken-link-checker I possibly have access to some paid SEO tools that could possibly tell Conservapedia all of the dead links on a website, but perhaps the various plans with such tools that I have access to do not cover crawling a whole website for dead links. But I believe this tool still works and it is free: https://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:49, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Very good. Use of the word "I" eleven times in 7 sentences. How narcissistic. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 16:19, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::What is center of the word "pride"? Indeed, it's the letter/word "I." —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 16:31, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Breach of etiquette: User:Consevative altered the context of his original posting above [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAschlafly&diff=1985450&oldid=1985433] [[Conservapedia:Editing etiquette#Interacting with other editors on talk pages]] reads:
 
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::::*'''Etiquette Rule''': No, you cannot go back and add to, or alter the context of your posting after another editor has responded. This is considered a potential violation of [[Conservapedia Guidelines:Bad faith editing]]."
 
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::::This is not a good example for an Administrator to make to junior editors; if you make an error, admit your error and move on. Do not disrespect other editors with trolling edits like above. If everyone begins to change the context of their postings after baiting other editors to respond, we have chaos. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:31, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:...before your [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAschlafly&diff=1985427&oldid=1985419 Revisions]. See, if User:Conservative's talk page was open for discussion with other human beings, he could be assisted before making such errors. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 16:28, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Conservative, right now I'm expanding a massive series on the [[CCP-Japanese conspiracy]]. Perhaps this can eventually help improve site traffic if it receives enough attention, as no other wiki covers this topic, from my knowledge. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 16:32, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::If the quality of the content is good and there is enough of it, it would help site traffic.
 
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::Also, I would like Andy to do a few very basic things for me related to Conservapedia. I also believe in reciprocity. I have helped Conservapedia in the past with my digital marketing skills. Having such skills are very useful in terms of web traffic. If a website and web pages are search engine friendly, much additional traffic via Google referral traffic can be achieved. Hopefully, things will work out. I certainly hope so. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:00, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Okay, only 4 "I"s in one paragraph. Improvement.
 
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:::"Quality of content"? After [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative#User:_Conservative.27s_political_essays your geopolitical series], it's hard to take you seriously. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:15, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::In sales, you want to eliminate as many "I"s and "me"s as possible. It's always about ''them'', not ''you'' (unless your message is "I'm the greatest bla bla bla" or "I am the biggest suck up"). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:20, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
 
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What a farce. We're still waiting for User:Conservative to explain how getting his pastor married is going to improve Conservapedia's search engine traffic, as he alleged in an email to me that according to him, he sent to Andy as well. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:46, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
 

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