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I was just gonna use that word - the 19th century in a fascinating period say from 1815-1914. Freemasons and Illuminati? It was treated much the same way its treated today - a whacked out conspiracy theory. And you need to be careful cause it leads up to the ''Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion'' aka ''Warrant for Genocide''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 01:38, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

I was just gonna use that word - the 19th century in a fascinating period say from 1815-1914. Freemasons and Illuminati? It was treated much the same way its treated today - a whacked out conspiracy theory. And you need to be careful cause it leads up to the ''Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion'' aka ''Warrant for Genocide''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 01:38, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

:Interesting. Now, I believe at this point, after much research into history to the point of massive internal brain implosions, that the problem isn't the truth itself, but how it's used. For example, the ''knowledge itself'' of the fact that, for example, Margaret Sanger's eugenics program and its inspirations were terribly racist in nature, isn't inherently good or evil; a person can use that knowledge to be properly informed into opposing Sanger because they are righteous and oppose bigotry, or, in the case of the modern-day [[alt-right]], support Sanger because they are racist to begin with. At the end of the day, concerning just about any case example, including the Freemasons and Illuminati, the same principle applies. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|^{Rev. 22:13}]]''''' Tuesday, 01:59, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

:Interesting. Now, I believe at this point, after much research into history to the point of massive internal brain implosions, that the problem isn't the truth itself, but how it's used. For example, the ''knowledge itself'' of the fact that, for example, Margaret Sanger's eugenics program and its inspirations were terribly racist in nature, isn't inherently good or evil; a person can use that knowledge to be properly informed into opposing Sanger because they are righteous and oppose bigotry, or, in the case of the modern-day [[alt-right]], support Sanger because they are racist to begin with. At the end of the day, concerning just about any case example, including the Freemasons and Illuminati, the same principle applies. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|^{Rev. 22:13}]]''''' Tuesday, 01:59, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

To understand the non-democratic [[feudal]] society that existed in Europe between 1815-1914, you actually need [[Machiavelli]] (from 3 centuries earlier). Read the first sentence of the ''The Prince''; in the 19th century, Europe had a growing population, it was more urbanized, less agricultural workers, more tradesman and craftsmen, yet their governments remained principalities ruled by noble bloodlines with bureaucracies that couldn't really handle a growing population. People had no rights, like freedom of the press, jury trial, etc. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 01:48, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

To understand the non-democratic [[feudal]] society that existed in Europe between 1815-1914, you actually need [[Machiavelli]] (from 3 centuries earlier). Read the first sentence of the ''The Prince''; in the 19th century, Europe had a growing population, it was more urbanized, less agricultural workers, more tradesman and craftsmen, yet their governments remained principalities ruled by noble bloodlines with bureaucracies that couldn't really handle a growing population. People had no rights, like freedom of the press, jury trial, etc. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 01:48, September 26, 2023 (EDT)