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Revision as of 06:24, September 26, 2023
, 06:24, September 26, 2023→What's your knowledge of Giuseppe Mazzini?
::Machiavelli says all governments that have ever existed are either republics or principalities (an inherited fiefdom). In the ''The Prince'', he quickly disposes talking about republics (he himself was a republican like Mazzini) and gives the governing Prince, the guy who owned all the land where he was born and living, some advice how to be a successful Prince. He didn't want to move away from his home or get arrested for treason. so he sent the prince a resume of sorts to get job as an advisor. That's what the book is.
::Machiavelli says all governments that have ever existed are either republics or principalities (an inherited fiefdom). In the ''The Prince'', he quickly disposes talking about republics (he himself was a republican like Mazzini) and gives the governing Prince, the guy who owned all the land where he was born and living, some advice how to be a successful Prince. He didn't want to move away from his home or get arrested for treason. so he sent the prince a resume of sorts to get job as an advisor. That's what the book is.
:::Maybe I'll have to investigate that book after all. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 02:12, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
:::Maybe I'll have to investigate that book after all. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 02:12, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
::::It's only a 125 pages. It could be read in 2 days. I told this all to User:The Con, how it exists in many many translations, I have read about 30 of them, so I would not depend on one single translation. Read at least three. Even the translators can be biased in in their meanings. And don't just read it once. Read it every couple of years or so, cause it is very short. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:24, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
This gets to be a tricky question for some conservatives; as a population grows, you actually need a government to grow, as well. More police. More schools, More judges. More jails, etc. It's to discuss this outside of a historical perspective with your commonplace, run-of-the-mill Republican who's just opposes all government growth and expansion. But actually, these are two very different questions.
This gets to be a tricky question for some conservatives; as a population grows, you actually need a government to grow, as well. More police. More schools, More judges. More jails, etc. It's to discuss this outside of a historical perspective with your commonplace, run-of-the-mill Republican who's just opposes all government growth and expansion. But actually, these are two very different questions.
::Republicans and conservatives talk about limited government as opposed to handouts. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:09, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
::Republicans and conservatives talk about limited government as opposed to handouts. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:09, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
:::Hmm... sounds about right. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 02:12, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
:::Hmm... sounds about right. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 02:12, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
::::Yah, sounds rational and reasonable. But people aren't rational and reasonable - they always tend to the extremes - because of emption. That's what war and violence is. And we're living in the Biden era where our leaders are trying to convince forever wars are rational and reasonable. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:24, September 26, 2023 (EDT)