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| | :'''Update: [https://www.academia.edu/41777803/Survivor_Testimonies_and_the_Coming_to_Terms_with_the_Holocaust_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia_The_Case_of_the_Ukrainian_Nationalists Survivor Testimonies and the Coming to Terms with the Holocaust in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia: The Case of the Ukrainian Nationalists]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 15:06, September 30, 2023 (EDT) | | :'''Update: [https://www.academia.edu/41777803/Survivor_Testimonies_and_the_Coming_to_Terms_with_the_Holocaust_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia_The_Case_of_the_Ukrainian_Nationalists Survivor Testimonies and the Coming to Terms with the Holocaust in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia: The Case of the Ukrainian Nationalists]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 15:06, September 30, 2023 (EDT) |
| | ::''"The coming to terms with the [[Holocaust]] in [[western Ukraine]] has been a long and challenging process that is not finished yet. It was a conglomeration of various cultural, social, and political factors that hindered the exploration of the Holocaust in this part of Ukraine and prevented the building of good relationships between Ukrainians and Jews. Ukrainians found it especially difficult to accept the fact that the '''Ukrainian nationalists were among the Holocaust perpetrators because the patriotic narrative and the “official” national version of Ukrainian history portrayed the [[OUN]] and [[UPA]] as national heroes who fought for an independent Ukraine, resisting [[Nazi Germany]] and the [[Soviet Union]]. Because the Ukrainian nationalists faked and destroyed the evidences of their involvement in the [[mass murder]] of Jews and the German occupiers did not keep records of Ukrainian nationalists’ killings''' of Jews, the testimonies of the survivors have been a very important, although not the sole, source of evidence. ..." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:54, September 30, 2023 (EDT) | | ::''"The coming to terms with the [[Holocaust]] in [[western Ukraine]] has been a long and challenging process that is not finished yet. It was a conglomeration of various cultural, social, and political factors that hindered the exploration of the Holocaust in this part of Ukraine and prevented the building of good relationships between Ukrainians and Jews. Ukrainians found it especially difficult to accept the fact that the '''Ukrainian nationalists were among the Holocaust perpetrators because the patriotic narrative and the “official” national version of Ukrainian history portrayed the [[OUN]] and [[UPA]] as national heroes who fought for an independent Ukraine, resisting [[Nazi Germany]] and the [[Soviet Union]]. Because the Ukrainian nationalists faked and destroyed the evidences of their involvement in the [[mass murder]] of Jews and the German occupiers did not keep records of Ukrainian nationalists’ killings''' of Jews, the testimonies of the survivors have been a very important, although not the sole, source of evidence. ..." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:54, September 30, 2023 (EDT) |
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| − | [[File:Zelensky and Biletsky.PNG|right|300px|thumb|Zelensky and neo-Nazi leader [[Andriy Biletsky]], who said the Ukrainian nation's mission is to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade...against Semite-led Untermenschen (Subhumans)", also known as White Leader.[https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/18/inside-azov-neo-nazi-brigade-killing-russian-generals-playing/ Telegraph] ]]
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| − | RobSmith, you pass yourself along as an expert on nazi Ukraine, so here's a simple question: why would a Neo-nazi government running Ukraine right now bother themselves into getting a JEW as their president? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 02:48, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | :Welcome back. Let's keep it civil. [https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/04/how-zelensky-made-peace-with-neo-nazis/ How Zelensky Made Peace With Neo-Nazis], Consortium News. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:54, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | ::I want YOU to answer the question, and not some spurious news link. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 02:56, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | :::There are several ways to answer; he's not a practicing Jew; he is not a maternal Jew; he shares with Ukrainian Nazis hatred for Russia; he's in it for the money; he's corrupt to the bone. Need I go on? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 03:02, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | ::::Yes, please go on, Mr. Expert. Explain why these so-called nazis didn't kill him. Nazis do kill Jews, don't they, or did they just up and quit that? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 03:04, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | :::::Because he brings home the bacon. $113 billion so far. Please spare your mocking attitude and keep it professional. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup>
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| − | :::There is no way Zelensky did not know who he was raising his fist to in Parliament, a member of the [[SS Galicia Division]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 03:04, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | ::::You are talking about an incident in Canada last week. What does that have to do with Ukraine the past few years? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 03:07, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | ::::I'm not sure what your question is, there is video of Zelensky meeting with the Azov on the front lines. [https://youtu.be/rgkPpsyUFcM Zelensky angrily responding after being rebuked by his own Azov forces.] (2:08) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 03:15, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | :::::Can't or won't answer it? It's a simple question. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 03:18, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | ::::Don't get snippy. Read it all yourself. [https://thegrayzone.com/2023/08/16/zelensky-ukraines-notorious-neo-nazi/ Zelensky holds court with Ukraine’s most notorious neo-Nazi], August 16, 2023. Zelensky has been careful not be photographed with Nazis - until a few weeks ago now that Ukraine is flat on its back, and they are the most fanatical fighters. He met with them to give them recognition.
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| − | ::::The man is sick. You might as well ask Hitler why he didn't like the Jews, either. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 03:19, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | :::::I don't read spurious websites that make up their own BS, and that BS is based off of Russian propaganda used to invade another country. Jews siding with nazis...that is complete and utter BS, and you should know better than that. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 03:26, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::I can't help it. If you wanna crawl in bed with [[globalist]]s and [[neocon]]s, that's your business. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 03:28, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::::Typical, as well as repeated, response. Because you don't have an answer. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 04:03, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::::Don't have the answer to what? I'll tell you how Ukraine elected a Russian-speaking Jew who now commands Nazi troops if you can tell me how 200+ American patriots are now sitting the [[DC gulag]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 04:08, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::And the authors you call "spurious" in the links given, are all Jews. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 03:30, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::What do you call a non-spurious website? CNN? The Washington Post? New York Times? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 03:33, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | ::::These guys (Zelensky and the Nazis) hate Russia and the Russians. It's a long history. The only good thing about Russia is, it's a little less corrupt than Ukraine. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 03:27, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | {{warning collapse|reason=trolling, personal remarks|content=:::::And you're a LIAR as well as a FRAUD. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 04:14, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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| − | Well, here's the problem. You are the problem. You pushed lies on this website, and lies based upon your various outlooks on life, which apparently is restricted. For example, your complete and utter lie on the death of James Forrestal, which you posted on another page a few hours ago. Murder by the DOD? How about a story about a stupid moron sitting in mom's basement being sued by the family of Forrestal for defamation?
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| − | And during the past two years I've seen you bully, harass, denigrate, and trample others because they don't follow the rules - YOUR RULES - that you push on them. You bitch and you whine about the faults of others, but in reality it is your faults, in keeping with your own severe case of narcissism. So, here's the deal. I'm back, and I will be in your face constantly, and the world will see what kind of a fraud you actually are. You are the one who needs to be reined in and consoled on the proper duties of an admin here.
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| − | Your games are over and done with. You want to cry me a river, just tell me where and when and I'll show up with a camera. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 05:14, October 1, 2023 (EDT)}}
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| − | :::<big>'''Zelensky being a Nazi sympathizer has already been added to [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia_proven_right&diff=1987401&oldid=1983087 Conservapedia proven correct]. If you have problem with that, take it up it Andy.'''</big> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 05:11, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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