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::Rob, if you are concerned about something which you believe might be a personal attack against yourself, from a longstanding editor, then perhaps allowing another admin to clean it up might be the best course of action. Otherwise, it looks like you are trying to cover something up, or bury dissent. I try to assume best intentions unless/until proven otherwise. But this pattern of behavior suggests malintent. If you are, in fact, just trying in good faith to keep things clean and fair, then perhaps being cognisant of the optics would be prudent.  --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">DavidB4</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 13:48, December 12, 2023 (EST)
 
::Rob, if you are concerned about something which you believe might be a personal attack against yourself, from a longstanding editor, then perhaps allowing another admin to clean it up might be the best course of action. Otherwise, it looks like you are trying to cover something up, or bury dissent. I try to assume best intentions unless/until proven otherwise. But this pattern of behavior suggests malintent. If you are, in fact, just trying in good faith to keep things clean and fair, then perhaps being cognisant of the optics would be prudent.  --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">DavidB4</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 13:48, December 12, 2023 (EST)
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:::Here's my point: User:Conservative is incapable of separating a content dispute from a personal dispute, and personalizes ALL disputes. It would be impossible for me or anyone to clean up his decade long plus personal attacks he's spammed across talk pages, user talk pages, in Essays and even in Mainspace. Only familiarizing both editors and Admins on proper user conduct on talk pages, the rules of Civility, and most importantly, familiarizing Admin with the proper use of Admin tools, can we begin to fix the persistent problems.
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:::Let me give an example: a certain unnamed user whose in initials were L & T learned a bunch a bad habits from User:Conseravtive - namely, spamming talk page discussion with off-topic, irrelevant junk that contributed nothing to an ongoing discussion. God love the man, and I do almost as my kid brother - but bottomline - it is incivil conduct to repeatedly spam discussions with irrelevant nonsense. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 14:08, December 12, 2023 (EST)
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