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::'''Update:''' Sources say Bryen is correct - back channel negotiations have been ongoing "for months" apparently at a [[Swiss]] hotel (since December?). In the linked video above, I think it is [[Yermak]] (the actual [[policy]] making "president" of [[Ukraine]]) heading the [[Maidan regime]] delegation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 08:15, March 11, 2025 (EDT)
 
::'''Update:''' Sources say Bryen is correct - back channel negotiations have been ongoing "for months" apparently at a [[Swiss]] hotel (since December?). In the linked video above, I think it is [[Yermak]] (the actual [[policy]] making "president" of [[Ukraine]]) heading the [[Maidan regime]] delegation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 08:15, March 11, 2025 (EDT)
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:Oops, sorry. I misidentified Witkoff. It was Walz not Witkoff who headed the delegation. As a representative of the [[White House]], Walz outranks Rubio. This answers an important question: you have to go back as far as [[George Schulz]] and the [[Reagan administration]] to find a [[Secretary of State]] in a policy making position who was not just an errand boy.
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:Oops, sorry. I misidentified Witkoff. It was Walz not Witkoff who headed the delegation. As a representative of the [[White House]], Walz outranks Rubio. This answers an important question: you have to go back as far as [[George Shultz]] and the [[Reagan administration]] to find a [[Secretary of State]] in a policy making position who was not just an errand boy.
    
:The [[Kiev regime]] delegation consisted of Yermak, Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha, Defense Minister [[Rustem Umerov]], and Zelensky [Yermak] Deputy Chief of Staff Pavlo Palisa. Zelensky, despite occupying room across from the meeting, was not involved in the talks. [https://weapons.substack.com/p/riyadh-negotiation-is-without-zelensky] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 18:41, March 11, 2025 (EDT)
 
:The [[Kiev regime]] delegation consisted of Yermak, Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha, Defense Minister [[Rustem Umerov]], and Zelensky [Yermak] Deputy Chief of Staff Pavlo Palisa. Zelensky, despite occupying room across from the meeting, was not involved in the talks. [https://weapons.substack.com/p/riyadh-negotiation-is-without-zelensky] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 18:41, March 11, 2025 (EDT)
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