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This is an example of [[Statism]] in [[Conservapedia]]:
This is an example of [[Statism]] in [[Conservapedia]]:
"The '''guns and butter economic concept''' describes the government allocation to defense spending versus social programs."<ref>[https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/guns-butter.asp What Does "Guns and Butter" Mean in Government Spending?], Investopedia</ref>[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Guns_or_butter&action=edit&oldid=2087044] The statist article claimed: "As an economy produces more guns ([[military]] spending) it must '''reduce its production of butter''' (food), and vice versa."<ref>[https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gunsandbutter.asp Guns-and-Butter Curve: Definition and How It Works], Investopedia</ref> This is totally [[false]]. The [[Guns or butter]] debate is over transferring the consumption of butter away from [[consumers]] in order to produce [[ammunition|munitions]], '''NOT reducing the production of butter.''' The sources used are [[Economic planning|command and control]], [[statist]] arguments.
"The '''guns and butter economic concept''' describes the government allocation to defense spending versus social programs."<ref>[https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/guns-butter.asp What Does "Guns and Butter" Mean in Government Spending?], Investopedia</ref>[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Guns_or_butter&action=edit&oldid=2087044] The statist article claimed: "As an economy produces more guns ([[military]] spending) it must '''reduce its production of butter''' (food), and vice versa."<ref>[https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gunsandbutter.asp Guns-and-Butter Curve: Definition and How It Works], Investopedia</ref> This is totally [[false]]. The [[Guns or butter]] debate is a choice policymakers must make between transferring the consumption of butter away from [[consumers]] in order to produce [[ammunition|munitions]], '''NOT reducing the production of butter''' which obviously would kill the production of munitions. The sources used are [[Economic planning|command and control]], [[statist]] arguments.
See [[Talk:Guns or butter]].
See [[Talk:Guns or butter]].
The '''guns OR butter''' debate is between [[government]] [[military]] spending vs [[private sector]] [[consumer]] choices. Unlike the [[Soviet Union]], the [[United States Government]] DOES NOT produce [[butter]].
The '''guns OR butter''' debate is between [[government]] [[military]] spending vs [[private sector]] [[consumer]] choices. Unlike the [[Soviet Union]], the [[United States Government]] DOES NOT<ref>or DID NOT prior to [[New Deal]] agriculture subsidies</ref> produce [[butter]].
"Deriving their just power by the consent of the governed" - people must [[democratic]]ally agree to give up their right to purchase [[butter]] in order to fight a [[war]], not have it imposed upon them top-down, as [[User:Conservative]]'s [[statist]] [[economic]] [[theory]] implies.
"Deriving their just power by the consent of the governed" - people must [[democratic]]ally agree to give up their right to purchase [[butter]] in order to fight a [[war]], not have it imposed upon them top-down, as [[User:Conservative]]'s [[statist]] [[economic]] [[theory]] implies.
See also [[O'Sullivan's First Law]].
See also [[O'Sullivan's First Law]].
[[Conservapedia]] needs better enforcement against [[spamming]] and [[trolling]], even when it is done by Senior Admin. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|WWJD? Would he claim 2 gay bathhouses in Russia compared to 300 in America justifies nuclear war?]]</sup> 15:57, June 22, 2026 (EDT)
Andy has allowed [[User:Conservative]] to [[spam]] so much [[liberal claptrap]] on the subject of [[war]] and [[international relations]] into [[Conservapedia]], it will take years to sort it out, making [[Conservapedia]] useless as a guidepost as [[America]] faces [[war]] and a [[national emergency]]. [[Conservapedia]] needs better enforcement against [[spamming]] and [[trolling]], even when it is done by a Senior Admin. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|WWJD? Would he claim 2 gay bathhouses in Russia compared to 300 in America justifies nuclear war?]]</sup> 15:57, June 22, 2026 (EDT)
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