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The following is from ''The Table-Talk of Martin Luther'', translated into English by [[William Hazlitt]] and published in [[Philadelphia]] by the [[Lutheran Publication Society]]. The electronic transcription was prepared by Kathy Sewell on June 1, 1997.
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=OF UNIVERSITIES, ARTS, ETC.=
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:A lawyer is wise according to human wisdom, a divine according to [[God|God's]] wisdom.
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:Ah! how bitter an enemy is the [[Satan|devil]] to our church and school here at [[Wittenberg]], which in particular he opposes more than the rest, so that tyranny and heresy increase and get the upper hand by force, in that all the members of the church are against one another; yea, also we, which are a piece of the heart, vex and plague one another among ourselves. I am verily persuaded that many wicked wretches and spies are here, who watch over us with an evil eye, and are glad when discord and offences arise among us; therefore we ought diligently to watch and pray; it is high time - pray, pray. This school is a foundation and ground of pure religion, therefore she ought justly to be preserved and maintained with lectures and with stipends gainst the raging and swelling of [[Satan]].
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:Whoso after my death shall condemn the authority of this school here at [[Wittenberg]], if it remain as it is now, church and school, is a heretic and a perverted creature; for in this school [[God]] first revealed and purified his Word. This school and city, both in doctrine and manner of life, may justly be compared with all others; yet we are not altogether complete, but still faulty in our kind of living. The highest and chiefest divines in the whole empire hold and join with us - as [[Nikolaus von Amsdorf|Amsdorf]], [[Johannes Brenz|Brentius]], and [[Urbanus Rhegius|Rhegius]] - all desiring our friendship, and saluting us with loving and learned letters. A few years past, nothing was of any value but the [[Pope|pope]], till the church mourned, cried, and sighed, and awakened our Lord God in heaven; as in the [[Psalms|Psalm]] he says: "For the trouble of the needy and the groans of the poor, I will now arise."
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:Our nobility exhaust people with [[usury]], insomuch that many poor people starve for want of food; the cry goes, I would willingly take a wife, if I knew how to maintain her, so that a forced [[celibacy]] will hence ensue. This is not good; such wicked courses will cause the poor to cry and sigh, will rouse up God and the heavenly host. Wherefore i say: [[Germany]] take heed. I often make an account, and as I come nearer and nearer to forty years, I think with myself: now comes an alteration, for [[Paul|St Paul]] preached not above forty years, nor [[Augustine of Hippo|St Augustine]]; always, after forty years pure preaching of God's Word, it has ceased, and great calamities have ensued thereupon.
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:''[[Dialectic|Dialectica]]'' speaks simply, straightforward, and plainly, as when I say: Give me something to drink. But ''[[Rhetoric|Rhetorica]]'' adorns the matter, saying: Give me of the acceptable juice of the cellar, which finely froths and makes people merry. ''[[Dialectic|Dialectica]]'' declares a thing distinctly and significantly, in brief words. ''[[Rhetoric|Rhetorica]]'' counsels and advises, persuades and dissuades; she has her place and fountain head, whence a thing is taken; as, this is good, honest, profitable, easy, necessary, etc. These two arts [[Paul|St Paul]] briefly taught, where he says: "That he may be able by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convince the gainsayers." ([[Epistle to Titus|Tit.]] 1.). Therefore, when I would teach a farmer concerning the tilling of his land, I define briefly and plainly, his kind of life; his housekeeping, fruits, profits, and all that belongs to the being of his life, ''Dialectice''; but, if I would admonish him according to ''Rhetorica'', then I counsel and advise him, and praise his kind of life, in this manner, as: that it is the most quiet, the richest, securest, and most delightful kind of life, etc. Again, if I intend to chide or find fault, then I must point out and blame his misconduct, evil impediments, failings, gross ignorance, and such like defects which are in the state of farmers. [[Philip Melanchthon|Philip Melancthon]] has illustrated and declared good arts; he teaches them in such sort, that the arts teach not him, but he the arts; I bring my arts into books, I take them not out of books. ''Dialectica'' is a profitable and necessary art, which justly ought to be studied and learned; it shows how we ought to speak orderly and uprightly, what we should acknowledge and judge to be right or wrong; 'tis not only necessary in schools, but also in consistories, in courts of justice, and in churches; in churches most especially.
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:I always loved [[music]]; whoso has skill in this art, is of a good temperament, fitted for all things. We must teach music in schools; a schoolmaster ought to have skill in music, or I would not regard him; neither should we ordain young men as preachers, unless they have been well exercised in music.
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:Singing has nothing to do with the affairs of this world, it is not for the law; singers are merry and free from sorrows and cares.
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:Music is one of the best arts; the notes give life to the text; it expels melancholy, as we see in [[Saul|king Saul]]. Kings and princes ought to maintain music, for great potentates and rulers should protect good and liberal arts and laws; though private people have desire thereunto and love it, yet their ability is not adequate. We read in the [[Bible]], that the good and godly kings maintained and paid singers. Music is the best solace for a sad and sorrowful mind; by it the heart is refreshed and settled again in peace.
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This text is in the public domain. Martin Luther's Table Talk may be freely reproduced.
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 00|00 - Introduction]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 01|01 - God's Word]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 02|02 - God's Works]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 03|03 - Nature of the World]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 04|04 - Idolatry]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 05|05 - Jesus Christ]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 06|06 - Holy Ghost]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 07|07 - Sin]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 08|08 - Free-Will]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 09|09 - The Catechism]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 10|10 - Law and the Gospel]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 11|11 - Justification]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 12|12 - Prayer]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 13|13 - Baptism]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 14|14 - Sacrament of the Lord's Supper]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 15|15 - The Church]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 16|16 - Excommunication]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 17|17 - Preachers and Preaching]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 18|18 - The Patriarchs and Prophets]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 19|19 - The Apostles and Disciples of Christ]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 20|20 - Angels]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 21|21 - The Devil and his Works]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 22|22 - Temptation and Tribulation]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 23|23 - Luther's Adversaries]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 24|24 - Regarding Offences]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 25|25 - The Christian Life]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 26|26 - Princes & Potentates]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 27|27 - Discord (Economic Feedom)]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 28|28 - Sicknesses and the Cause Thereof]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 29|29 - Death]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 30|30 - The Ressurection]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 31|31 - Allegories]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 32|32 - Spiritual and Church Livings]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 33|33 - Constrained Defence (Christian Military Action)]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 34|34 - Lawyers]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 35|35 - Universities, Arts, etc.]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 36|36 - Astronomy and Astrology]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 37|37 - Learned Men]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 38|38 - Jews]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 39|39 - Turks]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 40|40 - Countries and Cities]]
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* [[Original Source: Dr. Martin Luther - Table Talk, Chapter 41|41 - Vocation and Calling]]
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Dr. Martin Luther
Martin Luther by Cranach-restoration.jpg
Born 19 November 1483 (Gregorian)
10 November 1483 (Julian),
Eisleben, Holy Roman Empire
Died 28 February 1546 (Gregorian)
18 February 1546 (Julian),
Eisleben, Holy Roman Empire
Occupation Theologian, Augustinian monk, Priest, professor, Bible translator and author
Known For The Protestant Reformation, theological writings, and the German translation of the Bible
Major Works Ninety-Five Theses, On the Bondage of the Will, the German Bible translation, and Table Talk
Publication Notes Translated into English by William Hazlitt. Published in Philadelphia by the Lutheran Publication Society. Electronic transcription by Kathy Sewell, June 1, 1997.
Contents 00 - Introduction

01 - God's Word
02 - God's Works
03 - Nature of the World
04 - Idolatry
05 - Jesus Christ
06 - Holy Ghost
07 - Sin
08 - Free-Will
09 - The Catechism
10 - Law and the Gospel
11 - Justification
12 - Prayer
13 - Baptism
14 - Sacrament of the Lord's Supper
15 - The Church
16 - Excommunication
17 - Preachers and Preaching
18 - The Patriarchs and Prophets
19 - The Apostles and Disciples of Christ
20 - Angels
21 - The Devil and his Works
22 - Temptation and Tribulation
23 - Luther's Adversaries
24 - Regarding Offences
25 - The Christian Life
26 - Princes & Potentates
27 - Discord (Economic Feedom)
28 - Sicknesses and the Cause Thereof
29 - Death
30 - The Ressurection
31 - Allegories
32 - Spiritual and Church Livings
33 - Constrained Defence (Christian Military Action)
34 - Lawyers
35 - Universities, Arts, etc.
36 - Astronomy and Astrology
37 - Learned Men
38 - Jews
39 - Turks
40 - Countries and Cities
41 - Vocation and Calling

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Translation and Publication Details

The following is from The Table-Talk of Martin Luther, translated into English by William Hazlitt and published in Philadelphia by the Lutheran Publication Society. The electronic transcription was prepared by Kathy Sewell on June 1, 1997.

OF UNIVERSITIES, ARTS, ETC.

789

A lawyer is wise according to human wisdom, a divine according to God's wisdom.

790

Ah! how bitter an enemy is the devil to our church and school here at Wittenberg, which in particular he opposes more than the rest, so that tyranny and heresy increase and get the upper hand by force, in that all the members of the church are against one another; yea, also we, which are a piece of the heart, vex and plague one another among ourselves. I am verily persuaded that many wicked wretches and spies are here, who watch over us with an evil eye, and are glad when discord and offences arise among us; therefore we ought diligently to watch and pray; it is high time - pray, pray. This school is a foundation and ground of pure religion, therefore she ought justly to be preserved and maintained with lectures and with stipends gainst the raging and swelling of Satan.

791

Whoso after my death shall condemn the authority of this school here at Wittenberg, if it remain as it is now, church and school, is a heretic and a perverted creature; for in this school God first revealed and purified his Word. This school and city, both in doctrine and manner of life, may justly be compared with all others; yet we are not altogether complete, but still faulty in our kind of living. The highest and chiefest divines in the whole empire hold and join with us - as Amsdorf, Brentius, and Rhegius - all desiring our friendship, and saluting us with loving and learned letters. A few years past, nothing was of any value but the pope, till the church mourned, cried, and sighed, and awakened our Lord God in heaven; as in the Psalm he says: "For the trouble of the needy and the groans of the poor, I will now arise."

792

Our nobility exhaust people with usury, insomuch that many poor people starve for want of food; the cry goes, I would willingly take a wife, if I knew how to maintain her, so that a forced celibacy will hence ensue. This is not good; such wicked courses will cause the poor to cry and sigh, will rouse up God and the heavenly host. Wherefore i say: Germany take heed. I often make an account, and as I come nearer and nearer to forty years, I think with myself: now comes an alteration, for St Paul preached not above forty years, nor St Augustine; always, after forty years pure preaching of God's Word, it has ceased, and great calamities have ensued thereupon.

793

Dialectica speaks simply, straightforward, and plainly, as when I say: Give me something to drink. But Rhetorica adorns the matter, saying: Give me of the acceptable juice of the cellar, which finely froths and makes people merry. Dialectica declares a thing distinctly and significantly, in brief words. Rhetorica counsels and advises, persuades and dissuades; she has her place and fountain head, whence a thing is taken; as, this is good, honest, profitable, easy, necessary, etc. These two arts St Paul briefly taught, where he says: "That he may be able by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convince the gainsayers." (Tit. 1.). Therefore, when I would teach a farmer concerning the tilling of his land, I define briefly and plainly, his kind of life; his housekeeping, fruits, profits, and all that belongs to the being of his life, Dialectice; but, if I would admonish him according to Rhetorica, then I counsel and advise him, and praise his kind of life, in this manner, as: that it is the most quiet, the richest, securest, and most delightful kind of life, etc. Again, if I intend to chide or find fault, then I must point out and blame his misconduct, evil impediments, failings, gross ignorance, and such like defects which are in the state of farmers. Philip Melancthon has illustrated and declared good arts; he teaches them in such sort, that the arts teach not him, but he the arts; I bring my arts into books, I take them not out of books. Dialectica is a profitable and necessary art, which justly ought to be studied and learned; it shows how we ought to speak orderly and uprightly, what we should acknowledge and judge to be right or wrong; 'tis not only necessary in schools, but also in consistories, in courts of justice, and in churches; in churches most especially.

794

I always loved music; whoso has skill in this art, is of a good temperament, fitted for all things. We must teach music in schools; a schoolmaster ought to have skill in music, or I would not regard him; neither should we ordain young men as preachers, unless they have been well exercised in music.

795

Singing has nothing to do with the affairs of this world, it is not for the law; singers are merry and free from sorrows and cares.

796

Music is one of the best arts; the notes give life to the text; it expels melancholy, as we see in king Saul. Kings and princes ought to maintain music, for great potentates and rulers should protect good and liberal arts and laws; though private people have desire thereunto and love it, yet their ability is not adequate. We read in the Bible, that the good and godly kings maintained and paid singers. Music is the best solace for a sad and sorrowful mind; by it the heart is refreshed and settled again in peace.

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