Difference between revisions of "Talk:Abortion facts"

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Citation for "murder"

Since asking for a citation on the page is a bannable offense, I'll ask for it here. Can we have a source conclusively showing that abortion is in fact murder, the crime of unlawfully taking a human's life with prior intent? Barikada 01:35, 24 January 2008 (EST)

I'm not sure what you would define as "conclusively showing".

Also, despite the link to murder and that article defining it as unlawful killing, "murder" can also be defined as the taking of an innocent human life (as distinct from, for example, executing a criminal). By that definition, it doesn't have to be shown that abortion is illegal to classify it as murder.

In any case, in some places abortion is illegal, so that would make it murder even by the "unlawfal killing" definition.

Philip J. Rayment 04:35, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Abortion is not always a crime. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 09:30, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Who said murder == crime? SW^{♠·♥·♣} 09:37, 24 January 2008 (EST)

I don't think I understand what you all were debating about, but I tried to help. Forgive me if it didn't help that much... oops, I didn't see that one of his links was to a liberal site. Sorry!-MexMax 09:48, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Wouldn't the attribution guidelines tell us to say "conservatives believe that abortion is murder", in the same way we say "evolutionists believe the earth is 4.59Gy old?". People can disagree with the line "abortion is murder", so by definition it is opinion and shouldn't be in a factual encyclopedia; nobody can disagree with "conservatives believe that abortion is murder", and it is therefore a fact, and encyclopedia-worthy. HelpJazz 11:25, 24 January 2008 (EST)

In most of the cases it is truth bat not always. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 13:22, 24 January 2008 (EST)