Talk:Cdesign proponentsists

cdesign proponentsists is described as the missing link between creationism and intelligent design. The term came into being during the Kitzmiller vs. Dover Area School District trial in Pennsylvania over the legitimacy of intelligent design as a science vs that of evolution. A crucial piece of the defense (Pro-intelligent design) was a book called Of Pandas and People which was marketed as a science textbook for middle and high school children. During the trial, previous copies of the book were subpoenaed for review. It was discovered that previous versions of the book had the word creationist or creationism or some form of the term in replace of every use of the words intelligent design. In one of the most solid bits of evidence against intelligent design, it was shown where an editor lazily copied and pasted "design proponents" over the word "creationists" but had not even done a proper job resulting in "cdesign proponentsists". This evidence and more lead to John E. Jones III's verdict that Intelligent design was the same as creationism and that the ID movement was an subversive attempt to inject creationism into the classroom. Creationism had been banned by the Supreme Court in an earlier ruling.

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This can go back on when it has references. --Ben _Talk 18:23, 4 February 2008 (EST)

Is the "Pandasthumb.org" blog really a credible source? Bohdan 23:36, 4 February 2008 (EST)

There's a misspelling in the graph they use. I know it's an ad hominem argument, but shouldn't they proofread a little better if they are themselves trying to use a proofreading error as proof of something? HelpJazz 23:38, 4 February 2008 (EST)

Ouch. Ad hom. Bohdan 23:39, 4 February 2008 (EST)

Oh, I'm sorry, I'll look for a better source. The NOVA documentary "Intelligent Design on Trial" covers all the information in much more detail but I am unsure how to reference a video. Also, it's not a typo, it was left without a suffix to include creationism and creationist and other variants.--Gman2 23:42, 4 February 2008 (EST)

I don't know how to reference a video here either. Maybe try asking User:HelpJazz? Bohdan 23:46, 4 February 2008 (EST)

I didn't catch that, Gman. (They could have done Creationis* or Creationist/m or something, but I digress). Are you referencing a link to a video, or the video itself? I'm not really sure what the proper notation is for videos. My uneducated guess would be Intelligent Design on Trial, NOVA. Public Broadcasting Service. Origonal airdate XXX.

Ask Bohdan, he's been editing wikis longer than I :) HelpJazz 23:56, 4 February 2008 (EST)

I don't think there is a policy on how its done. And you have more contributions than me, but where is the vandal counter on your userpage? I was going to add one... Bohdan 00:01, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Oh I am good. According to this, if we cite using MLA style (which is good enough for me) it should be "Intelligent Design on Trial". NOVA. [Call Letters] Public Broadcasting Service. [Call letters of local station, City of local station]. [Date]. HelpJazz 00:02, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Does CP use the MLA? Real encyclopedia wiki editors use the Chicago manual of style. Bohdan 00:06, 5 February 2008 (EST)