Difference between revisions of "Talk:Liberals and friendship"

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:You must eat Feta and Stilton or I won't be your friend anymore, even if you don't like cheese!  [[User:SSchultz|SSchultz]] 23:22, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 
:You must eat Feta and Stilton or I won't be your friend anymore, even if you don't like cheese!  [[User:SSchultz|SSchultz]] 23:22, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 
::I'm lactose intolerant. Please don't shoot me, okay? [[User:Aboganza|Aboganza]] 23:24, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 
::I'm lactose intolerant. Please don't shoot me, okay? [[User:Aboganza|Aboganza]] 23:24, 25 February 2008 (EST)
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:::Die, heretic! [[User:SSchultz|SSchultz]] 23:41, 25 February 2008 (EST)
  
 
== Come on ==
 
== Come on ==
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I think that it is human nature to naturally be friends with people who agree with you, so people are more likely to be friends with people who agree with them politically.  But this trait is not any more likely to be found in a liberal than a conservative, and to suggest that liberals refuse to be friends with people who do not agree with them politically is ridiculous.  --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim]] <small>(CPAdmin1)</small><sup>[[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]]</sup>  <sup>[[User:CPAdmin1/Polls|Vote in my NEW polls]]</sup> 23:31, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 
I think that it is human nature to naturally be friends with people who agree with you, so people are more likely to be friends with people who agree with them politically.  But this trait is not any more likely to be found in a liberal than a conservative, and to suggest that liberals refuse to be friends with people who do not agree with them politically is ridiculous.  --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim]] <small>(CPAdmin1)</small><sup>[[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]]</sup>  <sup>[[User:CPAdmin1/Polls|Vote in my NEW polls]]</sup> 23:31, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 
::Are you calling andy ridiculous, cuz it's his article.[[User:KarlJ|KarlJ]] 23:35, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 
::Are you calling andy ridiculous, cuz it's his article.[[User:KarlJ|KarlJ]] 23:35, 25 February 2008 (EST)
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::That's the point, Tim. It seems odd that one should suggest liberals only befriend conservatives for the purpose of converting them. I would expect it's only the lunatic fringe (on both sides of the aisle) that would refuse to be someone's friend only because they hold opposite political views. Most people are friends because of mutual interests and last time I checked politics isn't the sole guiding principle of sports, music, art, literature, or entertainment. [[User:SSchultz|SSchultz]] 23:41, 25 February 2008 (EST)
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== Reply to all above ==
 
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Folks, a little logic, please?  The entry does not say that '''all''' [[liberals]] behave this way, or even that most do.  It does describe a common type of friendship that is hardly disputable.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:34, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 
Folks, a little logic, please?  The entry does not say that '''all''' [[liberals]] behave this way, or even that most do.  It does describe a common type of friendship that is hardly disputable.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:34, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 
:I agree with you completely, except the "hardly disputable" part.  What makes it undisputable?[[User:KarlJ|KarlJ]] 23:36, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 
:I agree with you completely, except the "hardly disputable" part.  What makes it undisputable?[[User:KarlJ|KarlJ]] 23:36, 25 February 2008 (EST)
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:So, it's common that liberals befriend conservatives only to convert them to liberal thinking?  This really makes it sound like the Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Do you have any citations for this?

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So let me get this straight. Are you saying that liberals will often, or even usually, only make friends with a conservative for the purpose of converting them? Isn't that ascribing an awful lot of malice without real cause? And where's the evidence for this? I have a number of liberal friends. We argue quite a lot about politics, but it doesn't mean we don't remain friends. Do you have any liberal friends, Andy? SSchultz 22:19, 25 February 2008 (EST)

I'm an apathetic-liberal. So, yes, Mr. Schlafly does have liberal friends. -^_^- Fuzzy 22:42, 25 February 2008 (EST)
And are you his friend only to convert him to your heathen liberal ways? SSchultz 23:17, 25 February 2008 (EST)

Another take

A Christian friendship is a friendship on Christian terms, as in requiring acceptance, allowance or lack of criticism of Christian values. It is often the product of peer pressure. Someone in a Christian friendship can expect loss of the friendship if he dares to express dismay or disapproval of the Christian values.

A Christian friendship can occur wherever Christians apply peer pressure to spread their belief system. It can occur in college, in relationships, and in the workplace.

In contrast, atheists virtually never require censorship or acceptance of atheist principles as a condition of friendship.

I like this take, here's another one:
A cheese eating friendship can occur whenever cheese eaters apply peer pressure to spread their belief in eating cheese. It can occur in college, in relationships and in the workplace.
You must eat Feta and Stilton or I won't be your friend anymore, even if you don't like cheese! SSchultz 23:22, 25 February 2008 (EST)
I'm lactose intolerant. Please don't shoot me, okay? Aboganza 23:24, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Die, heretic! SSchultz 23:41, 25 February 2008 (EST)

Come on

Are you seriously stating that liberals are only friends with liberals? I know from experience that this is false. I think that it is human nature to naturally be friends with people who agree with you, so people are more likely to be friends with people who agree with them politically. But this trait is not any more likely to be found in a liberal than a conservative, and to suggest that liberals refuse to be friends with people who do not agree with them politically is ridiculous. --Tim (CPAdmin1)talk Vote in my NEW polls 23:31, 25 February 2008 (EST)

Are you calling andy ridiculous, cuz it's his article.KarlJ 23:35, 25 February 2008 (EST)
That's the point, Tim. It seems odd that one should suggest liberals only befriend conservatives for the purpose of converting them. I would expect it's only the lunatic fringe (on both sides of the aisle) that would refuse to be someone's friend only because they hold opposite political views. Most people are friends because of mutual interests and last time I checked politics isn't the sole guiding principle of sports, music, art, literature, or entertainment. SSchultz 23:41, 25 February 2008 (EST)

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Folks, a little logic, please? The entry does not say that all liberals behave this way, or even that most do. It does describe a common type of friendship that is hardly disputable.--Aschlafly 23:34, 25 February 2008 (EST)

I agree with you completely, except the "hardly disputable" part. What makes it undisputable?KarlJ 23:36, 25 February 2008 (EST)
So, it's common that liberals befriend conservatives only to convert them to liberal thinking? This really makes it sound like the Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Do you have any citations for this?