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From what I remember from middle school history, the US knew an attack was coming after they picked up the words "east wind, south" (or something similar) in a broadcast to the Japanese embassy. Earlier interceptions confirmed that this would be a signal that negotiations (which had merely been a stalling tactic for some time, anyway) were to end and an attack was imminent. However, most felt the attack would be against British and Dutch territories in Malaysia. By then, however, the Imperial Navy carrier fleet was already in position to launch the attack on Pearl Harbour. This is also covered in some detail in "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich." --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]<sub>[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]</sub> 07:24, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
 
From what I remember from middle school history, the US knew an attack was coming after they picked up the words "east wind, south" (or something similar) in a broadcast to the Japanese embassy. Earlier interceptions confirmed that this would be a signal that negotiations (which had merely been a stalling tactic for some time, anyway) were to end and an attack was imminent. However, most felt the attack would be against British and Dutch territories in Malaysia. By then, however, the Imperial Navy carrier fleet was already in position to launch the attack on Pearl Harbour. This is also covered in some detail in "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich." --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]<sub>[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]</sub> 07:24, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
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: Could be that the warning signs were erroneously rejected without word getting to [[FDR]], but that seems a bit cavalier in dealing with an attack, doesn't it?  Many doubt U.S. intelligence was really that weak.  After all, the U.S. had clearly broken the Japanese code prior to the attack.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 07:35, 13 August 2008 (EDT)r

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What scope are we using here?

Would the question of what happened to Jimmy Hoffa, Judge Crater, D. B. Cooper, and other similar famous, historic disappearances fit the article? Jinxmchue 00:04, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

Good suggestion. I'll add these. I'm not even aware of the Judge Crater mystery, and now you have my curiosity piqued!--Aschlafly 20:59, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

Not really mysteries.

  1. What caused the USS Maine to explode?
 The current theory is that there was an explosion on the ship.
  1. What caused the Great Depression?
 An unregulated economy and the dust bowl.
  1. Did FDR have advance knowledge of the attack on Pearl Harbor?
 No... Just no.
  1. Why did the U-2 spy plane crash-land in the Soviet Union?
 A surface to air missile.
You're entitled to your opinion, but it's clear you haven't solved these four mysteries. The first answer simply repeats the question; your second is obviously biased and silly; your third shows a lack of understanding of the facts; and your fails to address how high U-2's fly. Keep trying, and maybe you'll learn something in the process.--Aschlafly 20:58, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
While the U-2 does fly at a very high altitude (25,000 meters)[1], the missiles in use at that time, S-75 Dvinas, have a higher max altitude, at 33,000 meters.[2] With the Maine, I should clarify, the current theory is that a spark in one of the coal shutes caused an explosion.
If a missile hit the U-2 as you claim, then how could it have landed intact with the pilot surviving? This mystery is not solved ... yet.--Aschlafly 23:43, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
No one has ever said it landed intact, there was debris, but that is to be expected, and Powers bailed out after the first salvo. 01:19, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Columbus

Not much of a mystery. He took note of the co-ordinates and used a compass. You might as well ask "How did columbus manage to find the exact port he left from". PeterSK 00:48, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Pearl Harbour

From what I remember from middle school history, the US knew an attack was coming after they picked up the words "east wind, south" (or something similar) in a broadcast to the Japanese embassy. Earlier interceptions confirmed that this would be a signal that negotiations (which had merely been a stalling tactic for some time, anyway) were to end and an attack was imminent. However, most felt the attack would be against British and Dutch territories in Malaysia. By then, however, the Imperial Navy carrier fleet was already in position to launch the attack on Pearl Harbour. This is also covered in some detail in "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich." --KotomiTOhayo gozaimasu! 07:24, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Could be that the warning signs were erroneously rejected without word getting to FDR, but that seems a bit cavalier in dealing with an attack, doesn't it? Many doubt U.S. intelligence was really that weak. After all, the U.S. had clearly broken the Japanese code prior to the attack.--Aschlafly 07:35, 13 August 2008 (EDT)r
  1. ↑ h
  2. ↑ ttp://www.pakdef.info/pakmilitary/army/sam/sa2guideline.html
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