Talk:Exotheology

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Edit comment: 'removed stupid uncited ref "the Bible to be inaccurate" '

What was stupid about it? As for it being unreferenced, the reference at the end of that sentence has the bloke saying, "Fr Funes ... said ... that the Bible should not be held to account for its lack of scientific accuracy." If he says that it has a lack of scientific accuracy, he is saying that it is inaccurate (in areas that science says differently). That bit should be reinstated. Philip J. Rayment 17:22, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

Sorry I took offense. He was not saying that he believed the bible was inaccurate, just in regards to science. You can reword the phrase. The bible is inaccurate to explain science. It just sounded like the Rev doesn't believe in the bible, which he does. Bloke? Are you from down under? My apologies. -- jp 17:35, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

Yes, I'm from down under. "He was not saying that he believed the bible was inaccurate, just in regards to science.". That's a contradiction. If he's saying that it's inaccurate "in regards to science", then he's saying that it's inaccurate! Saying that someone believes that the Bible is inaccurate doesn't mean that they think it gets every single thing wrong, or that he doesn't believe any of it; it just means that they believe it contains inaccuracies, so they don't believe those bits. If he believes that it contains inaccuracies in the area of science, then it is perfectly correct to say that he believes it to be inaccurate. And therefore he doesn't believe some of what the Bible says. Philip J. Rayment 19:11, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

According to Catholicism, you believe every last word or you are a heretic. If you believe science is not in the bible is not a 'contradiction' on believing in the bible. He is not stating he believes the bible to contain inaccuracies. And therefore he does believe all of what the Bible says. Maybe I'll write him, then we'll get to the bottom of it.-- jp 20:31, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

Let me add, I take away my apology.-- jp 20:38, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

Okay, so by Catholicism's definition, he is a heretic. I'd go along with that. He didn't say that he believes "science is not in the Bible" (whatever that means), but that it contains scientific inaccuracies. That is, he believes that the Bible is inaccurate on some points. Which means that he doesn't believe those points. Apart from denying that he said what he's reported to have said, nothing you've said refutes that. And by the way (referring to your last edit comment), you are not in a position to be giving me orders. Philip J. Rayment 21:42, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

Don't you get it? You are offending me and my religion. MY Pope doesn't surround himself with people that feel the Bible is inaccurate or believe in some of what the Bible says. You are misinterpreting what the Rev. says. There is not an exact line where he says the Bible is inaccurate. How can you say that if he believe there is no science in the Bible a contradiction? You are looking from the outside-in and you think you have the correct answer. Maybe it is the other way around basing his views on the Bible rather than on secular science. He is saying God can do anything, this includes make ET's. He is putting God above science, not making any exceptions. -- jp 22:50, 11 September 2008 (EDT)