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:::<edit conflict>Thanks - I'll try to promptly remove any plagiarism I find, and I'll be careful about noting the source in my edit comments.  Frankly, I often don't have time to discuss each one in detail on the talk page - I've added the notes below that should cover most situations, and I'll try to make the edit comments clear.  One question - what is to be done about images that have no information about their source?  I've come across several articles with pictures taken from another site without attribution, but I'm not sure how to address this.  Shouldn't all images include the source and some kind of statement as to their copyright status?--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 00:18, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::<edit conflict>Thanks - I'll try to promptly remove any plagiarism I find, and I'll be careful about noting the source in my edit comments.  Frankly, I often don't have time to discuss each one in detail on the talk page - I've added the notes below that should cover most situations, and I'll try to make the edit comments clear.  One question - what is to be done about images that have no information about their source?  I've come across several articles with pictures taken from another site without attribution, but I'm not sure how to address this.  Shouldn't all images include the source and some kind of statement as to their copyright status?--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 00:18, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
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::::There are a few things here that you're possibly unaware of for the moment.  The first thing is that all intellectual property created by indivuduals working directly for the U.S. government is public-domain; we can use them here as per this page: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia_Guidelines#Copying_from_other_sources].  But they have to be attributed as to where it came from, and the tag below has to be used on the page with the main source placed within it.  Another reason this public domain stuff is here (such as the several bird articles your deleted) is to provide a guide for the editor to make improvements and/or additions that are just not in the original.
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::::Pictures must be treated the same way; all should have a licence tag on it; all must identify exactly who created it, the year it was created; who or what entity owns it, and whether or not it's public domain.  Because we have so many images on the site it would not be possible to go through and check every one.  What you could do is to go to the image talk page, find out who uploaded it, and remind that person that the copyright or other is in question and corrections need to be made.  See [[Fair Use]] for further details, and you can also go to [[user:Karajou/tag template]] for more examples.
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===Response===
 
===Response===
 
If at all possible, can we have an expectation of you improving the articles after you remove the plagarism?  You left this line in one: "According to the US Geological Survey, Double-crested Cormorants are seabirds."  A line like that belongs in ''Dick and Jane'', not here.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 00:14, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 
If at all possible, can we have an expectation of you improving the articles after you remove the plagarism?  You left this line in one: "According to the US Geological Survey, Double-crested Cormorants are seabirds."  A line like that belongs in ''Dick and Jane'', not here.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 00:14, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:Well, I didn't want to leave absolutely nothing on the page.  I understand that it's annoying when what appeared to be a very nice article is removed.  However, once discovered, we cannot let plagiarism remain.  I honestly don't have the time (or the background) to research a large number of seabirds and write articles about them.  I understand that the stub that I've left is not ideal.  However, it is accurate and includes a reference, in-text attribution, and quotation marks around the quoted material, which is more than can be said for what was there before.  I didn't plagiarize the article in the first place, and I'm afraid I can't take responsibility to undertake a total re--write. Hopefully another editor will have the time and knowledge to do so. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 00:27, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:Well, I didn't want to leave absolutely nothing on the page.  I understand that it's annoying when what appeared to be a very nice article is removed.  However, once discovered, we cannot let plagiarism remain.  I honestly don't have the time (or the background) to research a large number of seabirds and write articles about them.  I understand that the stub that I've left is not ideal.  However, it is accurate and includes a reference, in-text attribution, and quotation marks around the quoted material, which is more than can be said for what was there before.  I didn't plagiarize the article in the first place, and I'm afraid I can't take responsibility to undertake a total re--write. Hopefully another editor will have the time and knowledge to do so. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 00:27, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
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::It's just a minor pet-peeve; I've hated ''Dick and Jane'' since the second grade!  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 00:36, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
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