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I came across this page when editing another and wondered if could link to this topic. As Googling "fundamental Christian defined" will show, it is often mostly parodied, and is often bandied about in the MSM with little distinction between types, and is equated with militant Islam by militant [[atheists]], and denigrated by many in evangelical Christianity and Catholicism, so i hoped for a fair explanation here. This page provides the history of Christian fundamentalism as a movement, which helps to distinguish it from simply being a fundamentalist, and provides some of the essentials of fundamentalism, but i added a new section to give more of an explanation. But i yet find it wanting. My definition of a fundamental Christian is one who hold to the evangelical fundamentals, but who is manifestly committed to them. Jesus and the apostles certain fit that description, including taking the Bible literally when that that was the type of genre at subject, and includes in Christ's body every real believer, but contended against serious errors within the camp of the elect. | I came across this page when editing another and wondered if could link to this topic. As Googling "fundamental Christian defined" will show, it is often mostly parodied, and is often bandied about in the MSM with little distinction between types, and is equated with militant Islam by militant [[atheists]], and denigrated by many in evangelical Christianity and Catholicism, so i hoped for a fair explanation here. This page provides the history of Christian fundamentalism as a movement, which helps to distinguish it from simply being a fundamentalist, and provides some of the essentials of fundamentalism, but i added a new section to give more of an explanation. But i yet find it wanting. My definition of a fundamental Christian is one who hold to the evangelical fundamentals, but who is manifestly committed to them. Jesus and the apostles certain fit that description, including taking the Bible literally when that that was the type of genre at subject, and includes in Christ's body every real believer, but contended against serious errors within the camp of the elect. | ||
| − | However, adherence to fundamentals and commitment to them may include a wide variety of people, who can be vastly different in spirit, from Fred Phelps to David Wilkerson. It also can describe cultic groups who claim to hold to most or all of these essentials, but are critically aberrant in one or more issues not specifically listed as fundamentals, with white supremacists coming to mind. In this, one can be a committed fundamentalist and be opposed to one whom the media assigns that name. [[User:Daniel1212|Daniel1212]] 15:04, 15 July 2009 (EDT) | + | However, adherence to fundamentals and commitment to them may include a wide variety of people, who can be vastly different in spirit, from Fred Phelps to David Wilkerson (good). It also can describe cultic groups who claim to hold to most or all of these essentials, but are critically aberrant in one or more issues not specifically listed as fundamentals, with white supremacists coming to mind. In this, one can be a committed fundamentalist and be opposed to one whom the media assigns that name. [[User:Daniel1212|Daniel1212]] 15:04, 15 July 2009 (EDT) |
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Merging
I attempted to merge the two articles that were present here. The result is ok, but it still needs help by someone more fluent in the history of American Christianity than I. Also, a great deal of the statements that I merged were unsourced, and any help in that department would be appreciated. JANorton 23:03, 14 January 2009 (EST)
This article
I created this article as a stub, because it was in the wanted page list. However, I wonder, do we have an article describing the beliefs of modern evangelical Christians? I would think such an article should be a centerpiece.-MexMax 11:52, 6 January 2008 (EST)
- Superb entry, MexMax!!!! I learned from your work. Yes, we should have an entry on evangelical Christians. I'll look first, and then start one if not already here somewhere.--Aschlafly 12:04, 6 January 2008 (EST)
- Not to complain, but why was my edit reverted? I was simply making the article more informative. CodyH 2238 7 January 2008 (BST)
- I misjudged it, sorry. I reverted it back to your edit. DanH 15:14, 7 January 2008 (EST)
And now I know what Fundamentalism is.. that would earn another 2 points on the American Gov't final. -^_^- Fuzzy 21:48, 21 January 2008 (EST)
Okay, a bit of history of this and a related article.
- An article named Fundamentalism was created on 15th March, 2007.
- An article named Fundamentalist was created on 25th March, 2007.
- On 28th September, 2007, merge tags were put on both articles, suggesting that Fundamentalist be merged into Fundamentalism.
- On 6th January 2008, the content of Fundamentalism was pasted into Fundamentalist, and Fundamentalism was deleted to "make way for move". Presumably the intention was that the now-merged Fundamentalist article would be moved to Fundamentalism. However, this did not happen, and on 7th January (about 12 hours after the deletion), a new version of Fundamentalism was created.
The 6th January paste was just that: a simple copy-and-paste job, with no attempt to actually merge. I'm going to do the same thing in a moment, copying and pasting the content of Fundamentalist into this article (Fundamentalism). I might then attempt a rough merge, but I will make Fundamentalist a redirect to this article. I will also restore the history of this article.
I hope that's all clear. It took a bit for me just to figure all that out!
Philip J. Rayment 07:37, 17 February 2008 (EST)
Definitions of Christian fundamentalism
I came across this page when editing another and wondered if could link to this topic. As Googling "fundamental Christian defined" will show, it is often mostly parodied, and is often bandied about in the MSM with little distinction between types, and is equated with militant Islam by militant atheists, and denigrated by many in evangelical Christianity and Catholicism, so i hoped for a fair explanation here. This page provides the history of Christian fundamentalism as a movement, which helps to distinguish it from simply being a fundamentalist, and provides some of the essentials of fundamentalism, but i added a new section to give more of an explanation. But i yet find it wanting. My definition of a fundamental Christian is one who hold to the evangelical fundamentals, but who is manifestly committed to them. Jesus and the apostles certain fit that description, including taking the Bible literally when that that was the type of genre at subject, and includes in Christ's body every real believer, but contended against serious errors within the camp of the elect.
However, adherence to fundamentals and commitment to them may include a wide variety of people, who can be vastly different in spirit, from Fred Phelps to David Wilkerson (good). It also can describe cultic groups who claim to hold to most or all of these essentials, but are critically aberrant in one or more issues not specifically listed as fundamentals, with white supremacists coming to mind. In this, one can be a committed fundamentalist and be opposed to one whom the media assigns that name. Daniel1212 15:04, 15 July 2009 (EDT)