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I take your point (about the general tone of the RobS/Conservative argument), but of course I daren't redact comments made by sysops. I've been rather appalled, however, by all the users who really have no say in these matters shooting their mouths off. I think it hurts the site in a lot of ways, so I've been trying to clean it up. However, I'm sure you're right; I'll back off and leave it to the sysops. [[User:Jcw|Jcw]] 10:13, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

I take your point (about the general tone of the RobS/Conservative argument), but of course I daren't redact comments made by sysops. I've been rather appalled, however, by all the users who really have no say in these matters shooting their mouths off. I think it hurts the site in a lot of ways, so I've been trying to clean it up. However, I'm sure you're right; I'll back off and leave it to the sysops. [[User:Jcw|Jcw]] 10:13, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

:No I absolutely agree that the general tone of the debate is terrible (and the newer users instantly jumping it is also unsettling to me, so I share your resentment towards that kind of trolling). I've been trying to clean it up as well - and I applaud your effort; it's just that I have been, on occasion, been using [[Template:personal remark removed]] or reverting sysops, and I can't in good conscience say that TracyS's comment - while, again, I completely disagree from it - wasn't far more civil than content from higher-ups on both sides that I ''haven't'' reverted, but you're doing a great job.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 10:21, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

:No I absolutely agree that the general tone of the debate is terrible (and the newer users instantly jumping it is also unsettling to me, so I share your resentment towards that kind of trolling). I've been trying to clean it up as well - and I applaud your effort; it's just that I have been, on occasion, been using [[Template:personal remark removed]] or reverting sysops, and I can't in good conscience say that TracyS's comment - while, again, I completely disagree from it - wasn't far more civil than content from higher-ups on both sides that I ''haven't'' reverted, but you're doing a great job.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 10:21, 1 August 2011 (EDT)