Talk:Essay: 10 reasons why American atheism will see a significant decline

One thing you need to clarify

You keep referring to the "leadership" of the atheist movement. What you haven't clarified is how many atheists consider themselves a part of this movement, and are followers of men like Dawkins and Myers, and how many atheists are not involved with any organized group, and are unaffected by anything it does. I have a feeling there are many more who fall outside of any organization, and who don't give much thought to God or religion or even their own lack of belief, or outright disbelief. --SharonW 10:14, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

I have never claimed the atheist movement has strong leadership. In fact, it could be argued that I have argued the opposite (for example, Atheism and cowardice). Plus, I wrote this article: Atheist factions. Nevertheless, your "herding cats" comment is a valid point. Conservative 10:43, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

SharonW, thanks. I added this sentence: "In addition, there is a lot of disharmony in the atheist movement (see: Atheist factions and Atheism: A house divided and in global decline)". Conservative 10:47, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

My point was actually not that there was disharmony, but that many people are apolitical, and don't pay attention to anything outside of their own lives. They're just not involved with any movements, or organizations, and many people who might consider themselves agnostic or atheist aren't even aware of these so-called leaders or organizations for atheists. --SharonW 14:30, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

Wired magazine made the observation that atheists tend to be quarrelsome, socially challenged males which would lend some support to what you have to say - as in "herding cats". Conservative 15:18, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

Thanks Sharon, I added this material: "Wired magazine made the observation that atheists tend to be quarrelsome, socially challenged men. " Conservative 15:26, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

I don't think the atheists are ready for battle; it's like they got their middle ages armor on while they do an uphill climb on a grease-covered mountain as they read the wrong manuals on how to fight! Karajou 01:26, 7 November 2011 (EST)

Yes, the allies of atheism/evolutionism are getting weaker (liberal press, etc.) plus the atheists/evolutionists are totally unprepared for the onslaught of a grassroots campaign like the Question evolution! campaign. Conservative 02:44, 7 November 2011 (EST)