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Andy, there are some explanations for butterfly migration other than God Did It.  [http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1272477 Here's an article].  [http://www.livescience.com/animals/050504_butterfly_navigation.html Here's another].  [http://www.biologynews.net/archives/2005/05/04/how_monarch_butterflies_are_wired_for_navigation.html And another].  You can't simply declare that no evidence exists.  [[User:SSchultz|SSchultz]] 20:55, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 
Andy, there are some explanations for butterfly migration other than God Did It.  [http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1272477 Here's an article].  [http://www.livescience.com/animals/050504_butterfly_navigation.html Here's another].  [http://www.biologynews.net/archives/2005/05/04/how_monarch_butterflies_are_wired_for_navigation.html And another].  You can't simply declare that no evidence exists.  [[User:SSchultz|SSchultz]] 20:55, 4 March 2008 (EST)
  
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I have often found that if you ask someone randomly which way is south they'll be able to 'feel' more or less which is south and hence.
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I have often found that if you ask someone randomly which way is south they'll be able to 'feel' more or less which is south and hence north etc.
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I think we have that ability but it is sooo slight you dont pay attention to it and it is not needed for our survival. Make sense or is it mindless jabbering. No, it makes sense!
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I think we (humans) have that ability but it is sooooo slight you dont pay attention to it and it is not needed for our survival.
 
[[User:MetcalfeM|MetcalfeM]] 21:14, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 
[[User:MetcalfeM|MetcalfeM]] 21:14, 4 March 2008 (EST)
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You don't have to 'feel' it. All you need to do is look up and see where the sun is. [[User:Samething|Samething]] 21:42, 4 March 2008 (EST)
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Yes aside from that. You're splitting hairs. Nevermind.
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[[User:MetcalfeM|MetcalfeM]] 22:07, 4 March 2008 (EST)
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I've removed the claim that there are no explanations for butterfly migration other than God did it.  Instead, there is now a claim that materialistic explanations are inadequate for the ''origin'' of the ability.  Whether God caused it, or it evolved, there's no reason in principle to claim that we can't explain ''what happens''.  The debate is about ''how it came to be''.
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I've reinstated Andy's deletion.  I can't see what was "liberal" about the content (as distinct from placement) at all.  And one of the lines he deleted was originally put in by him!  As for placement, I can't really see that either, but I've moved the bit about human migration down to follow the part about animal migration.
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[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 05:52, 5 March 2008 (EST)

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Andy, there are some explanations for butterfly migration other than God Did It. Here's an article. Here's another. And another. You can't simply declare that no evidence exists. SSchultz 20:55, 4 March 2008 (EST)

I have often found that if you ask someone randomly which way is south they'll be able to 'feel' more or less which is south and hence north etc. I think we (humans) have that ability but it is sooooo slight you dont pay attention to it and it is not needed for our survival. MetcalfeM 21:14, 4 March 2008 (EST)


You don't have to 'feel' it. All you need to do is look up and see where the sun is. Samething 21:42, 4 March 2008 (EST)

Yes aside from that. You're splitting hairs. Nevermind. MetcalfeM 22:07, 4 March 2008 (EST)


I've removed the claim that there are no explanations for butterfly migration other than God did it. Instead, there is now a claim that materialistic explanations are inadequate for the origin of the ability. Whether God caused it, or it evolved, there's no reason in principle to claim that we can't explain what happens. The debate is about how it came to be.

I've reinstated Andy's deletion. I can't see what was "liberal" about the content (as distinct from placement) at all. And one of the lines he deleted was originally put in by him! As for placement, I can't really see that either, but I've moved the bit about human migration down to follow the part about animal migration.

Philip J. Rayment 05:52, 5 March 2008 (EST)