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::: Jesus' resurrection had witnesses; it was a true story, not made-up from an earlier myth. [[Clement of Rome]] in the first century said "Day and night declare to us a resurrection," and gave other nature-based examples in nature. So Clement believed a nature-based resurrection wasn't unique, but he went on to note suggestions of a resurrection like Christ's that went beyond the natural realm (a resurrection of his soul into a glorified body) in the Old Testament and their fulfillment as recorded in the gospel. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 17:13, 28 August 2015 (EDT) | ::: Jesus' resurrection had witnesses; it was a true story, not made-up from an earlier myth. [[Clement of Rome]] in the first century said "Day and night declare to us a resurrection," and gave other nature-based examples in nature. So Clement believed a nature-based resurrection wasn't unique, but he went on to note suggestions of a resurrection like Christ's that went beyond the natural realm (a resurrection of his soul into a glorified body) in the Old Testament and their fulfillment as recorded in the gospel. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 17:13, 28 August 2015 (EDT) | ||
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| + | ::::That's not the point: the question isn't ''is the story true'' but ''is the story unique''! --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 17:39, 28 August 2015 (EDT) | ||
== Eternity == | == Eternity == | ||
Revision as of 21:39, August 28, 2015
Contents
Monotheism
What about Zoroastrianism and Atonism? No real scotsmen, I suppose... --AugustO (talk) 08:31, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
- Those religions, even if monotheistic, are not as old as the Bible.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 15:55, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
Resurrection
What about Osiris and Baal? --AugustO (talk) 08:32, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
- Please explain further.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 15:58, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
- The Osiris myth is the prototype of all resurrection stories.
- From Baal: "The cult of Baal celebrated annually his death and resurrection as a part of the Canaanite fertility rituals and involved human sacrifices and temple prostitution."
- --AugustO (talk) 16:21, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
- Jesus' resurrection had witnesses; it was a true story, not made-up from an earlier myth. Clement of Rome in the first century said "Day and night declare to us a resurrection," and gave other nature-based examples in nature. So Clement believed a nature-based resurrection wasn't unique, but he went on to note suggestions of a resurrection like Christ's that went beyond the natural realm (a resurrection of his soul into a glorified body) in the Old Testament and their fulfillment as recorded in the gospel. VargasMilan (talk) 17:13, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
Eternity
What about the Bhagavad Gita:
| “ | Never the spirit was born; the spirit shall cease to be never;
Never was time it was not; End and Beginning are dreams! Birthless and deathless and changeless remaineth the spirit for ever; Death hath not touched it at all, dead though the house of it seems! |
” |
| —2:20 | ||
--AugustO (talk) 08:49, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
- Interesting quote, but it is more a denial of a beginning than a concept of an individualized eternity.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 15:58, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
Summary
The concepts above are not unique to the Bible. Nor was the Bible the first to mention them. The Bible may be the most profound text when it comes to these subjects! --AugustO (talk) 08:56, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
