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:About the only time the secular humanists get press is when it comes to atheist churches stories. The father of secular humanism was the academic Paul Kurtz and often academics don't seek press attention. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:06, 5 November 2015 (EST)
 
:About the only time the secular humanists get press is when it comes to atheist churches stories. The father of secular humanism was the academic Paul Kurtz and often academics don't seek press attention. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:06, 5 November 2015 (EST)
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::Virtually the only intended "progress" I see that is championed by today's "progressive" elites is in the direction set down by secular "humanism" and actually rooted in the motivations and pursued by the methods I described.  Don't tell me left wing politics in the U.S. and other developed countries isn't led by (often disguised) secular humanists.  [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 16:22, 5 November 2015 (EST)
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