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-I'm a bit confused about the following statement from the about conservapedia page- "When a student handed in her paper using the date-markers “BCE” and "CE” from Wikipedia, Schlafly realized that Wikipedia, despite its claim of neutrality, contained bias against the achievements of Christianity and conservatism."
-I am not expressing any opinion whether or not Wikipedia contains bias in general. Conservapedia's bias page defines bias on encyclopedia as follows- "In works describing a potentially controversial topic, bias refers to the tendency of an author who holds a particular viewpoint to express that viewpoint (whether intentionally or subconsciously) in his work."
-BCE and CE specifically can be understood to mean before Christian era and Christian era or before Common era and Common era. It is a current academic trend meant to avoid holding a particular viewpoint to express that viewpoint, ie- to avoid bias. The term is meant to specifically avoid suggesting any viewpoint regarding Christianity, Islam, Judaism, or any other religion. The above statement thus confuses me. By definition, a lack of bias will endeavor to not lean in any direction, and how that is interpreted as a bias against the achievements of Christianity perplexes me. In actuality, a claim for bias by the usage BCE and CE can be made more so for every other religions, as it signifies using the Christian dating of the calendar, revolving around Jesus' birth, and not any other calendar, such as the Muslim one (which revolves around Mohammed's Higra) or the Jewish one (which revolves around the creation of all of humanity in the Garden of Eden).
-I would appreciate a clarification. Thank you.
-Where are the claims of bias? The controversial aspects? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia#Notable_incidents Even Wikipedia says] it has been controversial. --[[User:Gert3|Gert3]] 09:07, 13 July 2010 (EDT)
-== Cannot edit? ==
-When I view this page the "edit button" isn't there, is this a purposeful measure? I wanted to change ''...Conservapedia originally contained mostly history articles, it has grown over '''two years''' to be a general reference...'' because if Conservapedia was launched in 2006 that would make it nearly 5 years old. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 22:07, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
-: I think that means the page has been 'protected'. Only some of the more senior users (administrators?) have access. You can ask for it to be temporarily unprotected, probably ask ASchlafly. [[User:CharlieJ|CharlieJ]] 22:17, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
-::I think I have already bothered him enough today (I couldn't find the help index despite it being right in the menu!). Hopefully a senior user will see this. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 22:23, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
-:::Hi Max, good catch! I made that change for you: I made it "grown over several years". If there were any other changes you wanted to make, let me know or I'll unlock the article for you. [[User:AddisonDM|AddisonDM]] 13:07, 15 March 2011 (EDT)
-::::Thanks Addison! [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 15:27, 15 March 2011 (EDT)
-== Differences with Wikipedia Section ==
-Under this section, it might be helpful to add a wiki link to this page: [[Conservapedia:How Conservapedia Differs from Wikipedia]]. One of the better differences, in my opinion, is that Conservapedia allows primary sources while Wikipedia does not. According to Wikipedia, if the liberal media has not mentioned it, then it must not exist.  This is the same tactic liberals used when [[ClimateGate]] went public; they simply ignored the story and hoped it would disappear.
-Secondary sources can be very helpful in explaining a more complex topic, but an encyclopedic approach would be to cite the primary and secondary sources, which Wikipedia does not allow.  This means that Wikipedia is a source for less reliable, second-hand citations; unless a page is completely unrelated to politics of any kind, Wikipedia references mostly liberal opinions with a bias view discussing a primary source. Even then, Wikipedia's non-political pages still can't use primary research as a citation.  In my opinion, primary sources are more encyclopedic than the opinions of HuffPo writers, MSNBC reporters and the vast liberal media machine. [[User:DerekE|DerekE]] 21:32, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
-: Wow, that's a superb insight!  I added the link as you suggested.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:55, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
-== Blocked user listed as influential ==
-In the "influential users" list, "JacobB" is still listed even though that user was blocked for inserting false information. Was leaving this user on the list intended or an oversight? [[User:CWest|CWest]] 12:41, 8 June 2012 (EDT)
-The following was mailed to me by SamHB.  [[User:JudyJ|JudyJ]] 14:29, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
-I take exception to the suggestion that user JacobB was "blocked for inserting false information".  That is not true.  Jacob was more knowledgeable about mathematics than everyone here, past or present, put together.  He was caught up in some kind of internet password spoofing incident, and the "good guys vs. traitors" mindset kicked in.  I believe he was allowed to come back briefly, but he quickly lost interest and moved on to other things.  In his case, grad school in mathematics.  He never inserted false information.  You should show some respect, OK?  If his user page showing as a redlink bothers you, why not just restore the page?
-Another matter.  While I had bitter fights with Terry Koeckritz, I was saddened to learn of his death.  I think the existing entry does not show respect the way it should.  The phrase "RIP" is used in many ways, from extremely solemn (Requiescat In Pacem) to downright silly and flippant (hanging an "RIP" sign on a computer.)  Someone reading his entry wouldn't really know what was intended.  They could even conclude that he was simply banned.  I would suggest changing the line to something like
-*[[User:TK|TK]] made many substantive contributions since coming to Conservapedia in 2007, and was known for his vigilance against vandals prior to his sudden passing in December, 2010.
-:I meant no disrespect. I was not the one that made the block; I only joined this site about a week ago. Personally, the red link does not bother me; I did notice it and checked the reason for the block, but I simply wanted to check with the sysops. Even if I did restore the page, it may be deleted again anyway. There has been another instance where I redid something a sysop had undone and I caught some heat for it. I do not wish for that to happen again. Also, as I did not mention anything to do with that second paragraph, I will leave that part alone without replying. [[User:CWest|CWest]] 09:40, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
-== Only for Americans? ==
-I read people stating one forum that this site is only accessible to American IPs, with people from other countries complaining that they were not given access, though a Canadian said he did manage to get in. Is this true, or just propaganda? I'm moving to Israel, so I'd still like to be able to access this site.--[[User:Pubjabi20|Pubjabi20]] 17:57, 23 July 2012 (EDT)
-:Conservapedia is available worldwide, and you should be able to access this site without difficulty from outside the [[U.S.]]  Only a small percentage of international, anonymous proxies are blocked.  Thanks for your interest.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:03, 23 July 2012 (EDT)
-== JacobB ==
-[[User:JacobB|JacobB]] should be removed from the list of "Influential editors and users". He was a troll and has already been blocked.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] 10:52, 10 July 2014 (EDT)
-== Alexa ==
-Bad news - our Alexa rating went down 3,272 ranks from April to May, and now we're out of the Top 55,000.  I can't tell if this is a decrease in traffic or just other websites increasing or not, but either way, our statistic is out of date.  Also, pageviews, time on site, and search engine results are up.--[[User:Abcqwe|Abcqwe]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 18:19, 4 May 2017 (EDT)
-:Page views & site time up? I guess we gotta concentrate on quality over quantity right now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]</sup> 21:59, 4 May 2017 (EDT)
-== Books mentioning Conservapedia ==
-These are all excerpts from books, found in Google Books, that mention Conservapedia:
-{{cquote|While Wikiality is a humorous and entertaining concept, it does not relate to real world politics.  Take, for example, Conservapedia, the online encyclopedia inaugurated by the son of arch-conservative Phyllis Schlafly as a "much-needed alternative to Wikipedia, which is increasingly Anti-Christian and Anti-American.  Conservapedia seeks to offer conservative definitions of contested words and terms, from evolution and global warming to dinosaurs and kangaroos.  Though such an endeavor, on its face, is patently absurd, the notion behind the site is quite powerful.  These are the ''real'' truths, the site proclaims, and the ability now exists for conservatives and Christians to create their own public space where they need not endure the falsities propagated by the Anti-Christian and liberal establishment that have dominated public thought in their ability to define the world.  Such a site is the culmination of years of effort to challenge the cultural hegemony of liberal media, government, and academics, and it does so by the establishment and control of language upon which reality is built.  Whether effective or not, simply by its existence, the site actively contests the legitimacy of other such locations for the establishment of definitional truth, be it Wikipedia, ''Encyclopedia Britannica'', ''Webster's'', or some other.  It challenges its users to question ''all'' such informational resources for their ideological biases before using them.<ref>Jones, Jeffrey P.
- ''Entertaining Politics:  Satiric Television and Political Engagement''.  Rowman and Littlefield Publishers:  Plymouth, 2010.</ref>}}
-{{cquote|Some maintain that Wikipedia's sources should be checked since they are user contributed and potentially biased, which is a good idea; however after they have passed a series of internal "tests" the article reliability grows, although even at this stage there may be a liberal bias.  Enter Conservapedia.com (http://conservapedia.com/Conservapedia) featuring a conservative encyclopedia, which features excellent articles from my sampling, and I would recommend it over Wikipedia, though its article base isn't as large.  (http://conservapedia.com/Main_Page).  Just remember that initially posted articles at Wikipedia have not encountered any evaluation.  There is often an editor's notation as to any concerns within an article, e.g., "This article does not cite any references or sources.  Please help this article by adding citations to reliable sources.  Unsourced material may be challenged and removed."<ref>Weldon, John.  ''How to Survive the Coming Economic Meltdown''.  ATRI Publishing.</ref>}}
-{{cquote|In comparison to Wikipedia, Conservapedia defines ... an impressive impact on public thinking and reaction as a cumulative result of collective knowledge.<ref>Costigan, Sean S. and Jake Perry.  ''Cyberspaces and Global Affairs''.  Routledge:  New York, 2012.</ref>}}
-Do you think we should include these in some section about Conservapedia's being mentioned in other works, or a section about praise of CP?--[[User:Abcqwe|Abcqwe]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 17:38, 6 May 2017 (EDT)
-== Conservapedia only in English?  ==
-Is conservapedia only in English? If so, why?
-Should this website have multiple languages?
-Many wiki so have many languages especially Wikipedia.
-(User: Coolguy)
-:Yes, it is only in English. I (and probably most of the rest of us) don't think it should be in other languages because 1) most readers come from the U.S. or U.K., and the encyclopedia primarily focuses on U.S. and (to a lesser extent) EU politics, and 2) English is the international language. Many of our European editors and readers can understand English. Also, it might be difficult maintaining an encyclopedia with multiple languages when few editors of that language edit it. This is at least my take on your question. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:49, 7 June 2017 (EDT)
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