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::Dataclarifier: "two links I provided for direct access to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which affirms your last statement above "Baptism is of the spirit, not of the flesh".
::Dataclarifier: "two links I provided for direct access to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which affirms your last statement above "Baptism is of the spirit, not of the flesh".
:Botomline, if you agree with your own words, I have no idea what any dispute is about. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 17:21, 6 November 2019 (EST)
:Botomline, if you agree with your own words, I have no idea what any dispute is about. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 17:21, 6 November 2019 (EST)
:Or, alternatively, in your fleshly perspective (ignoring Matthew chapter 20 which explains the doctrine of the Kingdom and doctrine of grace pretty well) you think God is some unjust, sadistic meanie who gets his kicks out of tossing unbaptized babies into the lake of fire. That's pretty sick, and ridiculous. But that is the Gospel of Wrath you preach. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 18:59, 6 November 2019 (EST)