| | :::::::Like I said, Ion Mihai Pacepa disagrees with you, and based on his experience, including being a former DIE agent and the highest-ranking Soviet intelligence operative to EVER defect, he'd KNOW if it was a disinformation op or not, and most certainly wasn't a Deep State operative for the United States back when it occurred. Heck, aside from Operation Dragon (the one dealing with disinformation on JFK's assassination, and aside from ''Disinformation'', Pacepa even covers it in full in the book ''Programmed to Kill: Moscow’s Responsibility for Lee Harvey Oswald’s Assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy'', released in 2012), there's also Operation Che (which turned Che Guevara into a post-mortem leftist celebrity cause, something which would certainly have harmed the Soviets even worse than merely having JFK assassinated before then ESPECIALLY when remembering that Che IS the reason why the Cold War almost turned into all out nuclear war. If they truly were against entering an arms race of any sort, they most certainly would not have promoted Che Guevara as the ultimate hero for various leftists ESPECIALLY after the CMC. If anything, Che's actions, which he even bragged about in the London Daily Worker afterward in what he believed was off-the-record, is the very DEFINITION of an arms race.) and Operation Aries (which caused the anti-Vietnam protests), all of which also occurred around the same time. And as far as the Soviets, they would have used any excuse to enter conventional and nuclear arms competition anyways, since they from the very onset were basically the French Revolution 2.0, which sought to just cause carnage for carnage's sake, as you could see with the Vendee massacres, the September Massacres, and the Reign of Terror, not to mention even Vladimir Lenin explicitly compared the Bolsheviks' own actions to those of the Jacobins, up to and including the Reign of Terror, and it's safe to say that Stalin and even Khrushchev ultimately bought into that view as well. Heck, immediately after consolidating power, Lenin's forces [https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/08/communisms-first-defeat-john-radzilowski/ even attempted to outright invade Germany] to back up Communist groups operating there (Poland stopped them, alongside various international forces as well). And BTW, integrity of the Nuremberg Trials has already been questioned especially after the publishing of that book Nuremberg and Vietnam: An American Tragedy, which was [https://uakron.edu/dotAsset/ca5946e8-b2d6-43f9-a5ea-b6b98d73a461.pdf pretty easily taken down] regarding the comparisons (and what's even more ironic is that the guy who wrote the book played a huge role in those trials as well). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 23:16, 8 October 2020 (EDT) | | :::::::Like I said, Ion Mihai Pacepa disagrees with you, and based on his experience, including being a former DIE agent and the highest-ranking Soviet intelligence operative to EVER defect, he'd KNOW if it was a disinformation op or not, and most certainly wasn't a Deep State operative for the United States back when it occurred. Heck, aside from Operation Dragon (the one dealing with disinformation on JFK's assassination, and aside from ''Disinformation'', Pacepa even covers it in full in the book ''Programmed to Kill: Moscow’s Responsibility for Lee Harvey Oswald’s Assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy'', released in 2012), there's also Operation Che (which turned Che Guevara into a post-mortem leftist celebrity cause, something which would certainly have harmed the Soviets even worse than merely having JFK assassinated before then ESPECIALLY when remembering that Che IS the reason why the Cold War almost turned into all out nuclear war. If they truly were against entering an arms race of any sort, they most certainly would not have promoted Che Guevara as the ultimate hero for various leftists ESPECIALLY after the CMC. If anything, Che's actions, which he even bragged about in the London Daily Worker afterward in what he believed was off-the-record, is the very DEFINITION of an arms race.) and Operation Aries (which caused the anti-Vietnam protests), all of which also occurred around the same time. And as far as the Soviets, they would have used any excuse to enter conventional and nuclear arms competition anyways, since they from the very onset were basically the French Revolution 2.0, which sought to just cause carnage for carnage's sake, as you could see with the Vendee massacres, the September Massacres, and the Reign of Terror, not to mention even Vladimir Lenin explicitly compared the Bolsheviks' own actions to those of the Jacobins, up to and including the Reign of Terror, and it's safe to say that Stalin and even Khrushchev ultimately bought into that view as well. Heck, immediately after consolidating power, Lenin's forces [https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/08/communisms-first-defeat-john-radzilowski/ even attempted to outright invade Germany] to back up Communist groups operating there (Poland stopped them, alongside various international forces as well). And BTW, integrity of the Nuremberg Trials has already been questioned especially after the publishing of that book Nuremberg and Vietnam: An American Tragedy, which was [https://uakron.edu/dotAsset/ca5946e8-b2d6-43f9-a5ea-b6b98d73a461.pdf pretty easily taken down] regarding the comparisons (and what's even more ironic is that the guy who wrote the book played a huge role in those trials as well). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 23:16, 8 October 2020 (EDT) |
| | ::::::::Kennedy's killers were all outside contractors. As to Che, [[Diem]], and Castro, the explanation the Deep State gave then was "the Kennedy's were victims of their own methods". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 23:21, 8 October 2020 (EDT) | | ::::::::Kennedy's killers were all outside contractors. As to Che, [[Diem]], and Castro, the explanation the Deep State gave then was "the Kennedy's were victims of their own methods". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 23:21, 8 October 2020 (EDT) |