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:::::::Various state encouraged non-citizens to vote, notably California. But the states that do this tend to be "deep blue" anyway. This would effect the popular vote more than the Electoral College vote. Every state should require voter ID. Whether there is fraud or not, it makes people take the process of voting more seriously.  
 
:::::::Various state encouraged non-citizens to vote, notably California. But the states that do this tend to be "deep blue" anyway. This would effect the popular vote more than the Electoral College vote. Every state should require voter ID. Whether there is fraud or not, it makes people take the process of voting more seriously.  
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:::::::The latest is that the Dems are calling for Trump's lawyers to be sanctioned. What about Gore's lawyers, who pushed the "hand recount" nonsense back in 2000? There was no basis in Florida law counting by hand. There is no reason to think that this method is more accurate than a machine count. Ron Klain, who headed Gore's recount effort, is now White House chief of staff. In short, there is no shame in trying to cheat your way to victory if you are a Democrat. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 21:03, 5 December 2020 (EST)
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:::::::The latest is that the Dems are calling for Trump's lawyers to be sanctioned. What about Gore's lawyers, who pushed the "hand recount" nonsense back in 2000? There was no basis in Florida law for counting votes by hand. Furthermore, there is no reason to think that this method is more accurate than a machine count. Ron Klain, who headed Gore's recount effort, is now White House chief of staff. In short, there is no shame in trying to cheat your way to victory if you are a Democrat. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 21:03, 5 December 2020 (EST)
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