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Lastly, what makes DeSantis exceptional is his work ethic, his uncompromising resolve, and his intense discipline and devotion to the mission. In times like these, that is what Americans will gravitate to." [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 09:28, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
Lastly, what makes DeSantis exceptional is his work ethic, his uncompromising resolve, and his intense discipline and devotion to the mission. In times like these, that is what Americans will gravitate to." [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 09:28, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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==Election news==
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===GOP candidates scramble to stay on the debate stage===
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GOP stage may be down to 4 Candidates by 3rd Debate: DeSantis, Haley, Pence, Ramaswamy.
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""A 5 percent threshold for the yet-to-be-announced future debates, for instance, would imperil both Scott and Christie." [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 18:30, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/14/gop-debate-stage-losers-00115971 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 18:30, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
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:...so at the end of the day, the infighting will cost all of them the nomination, which goes to the oversized tangerine of Mar-a-Lago. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 21:44, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
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===Dave Rubin with 1.4 MN Followers: Trumps endless lies are catching up to him===
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A DeSantis revolution is likely beginning on Twitter. Here is Dave Rubin:
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"The great work of @megynkelly exposed three things:
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Trumps endless lies are catching up to him.
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People are becoming less afraid to call him out.
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His pundit cheerleaders who are all silent today are frauds.
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Patience, everyone!" https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1702415508711084312 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 20:30, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
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:This is the gay married guy, isn't it? Yah, that's credible on the subject of honesty. Somebody who lies to himself on what marriages is. Sounds like a typical DeSantis supporter. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:36, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
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:!.4 mn followers, huh? Then you wonder why the planet and the conservative movement are so screwed up. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:39, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
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::Meanwhile, you're a shill for Commuputinism. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 21:43, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
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:::Meanwhile, you're the only one who knows what you're talking about. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:13, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
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=== DeSantis and Trump on Covid Vaccines ===
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"“Donald Trump, he’s basically saying he did everything was right. And I think that means you should understand he would do the same thing all over again, if put in that position, and that would be disastrous for our country,” DeSantis said.
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On the campaign trail, DeSantis has regularly criticized Trump for elevating Fauci during the pandemic, calling the presidential commendation award a “gut punch” and arguing he should have been fired.
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“Clearly, Dr. Fauci should have been fired. He caused a lot of damage. And not only was he not fired, Donald Trump gave Fauci a presidential commendation, on January 19, 2021, his last day in office,” DeSantis said at an event in Coralville, Iowa in August. “I think that that was a gut punch.”
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DeSantis’ administration on Wednesday advised people younger than 65 against getting the new Covid-19 shots from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, contradicting federal health officials’ guidance."
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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/14/politics/desantis-trump-fauci-commendation-covid/index.html [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 07:45, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
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=== Megyn Kelly and Trump - Interview ===
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https://youtu.be/cJn0c7J9cjA [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 16:54, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
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:It's already posted on MPR. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:21, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
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:Perhaps you have difficulty understanding CP's editorial stance: CP is in the pro-Trump camp, as of now. The DeSantis news (or Vivek or Nikki) doesn't really make it to MPR, unless it's real bad. It's open season on Pence.
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:Now, that's not to say CP's position can't change, barring assassination or some other such circumstance. But spamming this page with the latest DeSantis news, most of which is poorly written [[propaganda]], isn't really going to persuade anyone right now. It's best keeping at the Community Portal, should anything worthwhile or of interest occur. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:26, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
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Yes, I'm aware the editorial stance of the site is pro-Trump. But new information is coming to light every day, including for e.g. DeSantis' and Trump's contrasting answers on the Woke Trans Issue in that Megyn Kelly interview. Many people who were pro-Cruz last time around in the primary became pro-Trump in the general, and I think something similar will happen this time. Wait and watch. Only this time, I daresay the consensus would be around DeSantis. People will read and watch these interviews and statements of the Candidates and make up their minds. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:39, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
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:Oh, ok. If you feel the [[transgender]] issue is so important, please read this article and tell me what you think. [https://kurtnimmo.substack.com/p/trans-psycho-threatens-to-murder Trans psycho threatens to murder critics of Ukraine war.] Here's the [https://twitter.com/ducaena/status/1701741396363792650 clip] (40 sec). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:26, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
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Well, Anti-Woke Conservatives are not responsible for whatever one psychopath says. There was that Trans Terrorist who murdered Christian Children. Does that mean we Anti-Woke Conservatives are in favor of that? Of course not. We are opposed to Child Genital Mutilation. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 06:35, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
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:Yes they are. They are paying [[Sarah Ashton-Cirillo]]'s salary (as well as the terrorist assassins of the [[Ukrainian Security Service]]. Failing to speak out is moral cowardice. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 13:47, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
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Who is failing to speak out? I already condemned that one extremist. Why do you refuse to condemn Putin's extremism that, at the height of the War, caused around 10 MN Ukrainians to suffer displacement from their homes, both within and outside Ukraine? Since most Ukrainians are Christians (around 90%) Putin is responsible for more Christians having to flee their homes these past 1.5 years than just about anyone. If you think that dubious distinction is worth something or worth celebrating, like his new found dubious distinction of celebrating North Korea, the #1 Nation in the Persecution of Christians according to [[Open Doors]], go for it. I stand with traditional Raeganite Peace through Strength. You were once strong on the CCP, Rob, but you've been slipping on that too sadly. Let Putin leave Ukraine and end the War. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 14:45, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
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:Don't think I'm ignoring you or don't have an answer for your list of concerns. I'm presently looking right now for video clip of a woman/girl in Ukraine who was interrogated by the [[Ukrainian gestapo]] because all the contacts on her phone had their numbers changed and forwarded to Russia. Russia has accepted more Ukrainian refugees than any country in the world. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:35, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
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=== Reminder: Trump PAC has spent more than $ 100 MN since Last Year including on Legal Fees ===
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Seems like a waste of his donors' money. Can this really be sustained? Doubtful.
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"Former President Donald J. Trump’s political action committee, which began last year with $105 million, now has less than $4 million left in its account after paying tens of millions of dollars in legal fees for Mr. Trump and his associates."
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/31/us/politics/trump-pac-filing.html [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 00:01, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:A $100 million is nothing. To put on a Trump rally is about $10 million. That's how Trump campaigns and spends his money. No other candidate really does that. And he puts on more than 10 rallies a year. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:16, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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=== Trump: DeSantis 6 week Abortion Heartbeat Bill - an objective Conservative Victory - allegedly "a terrible mistake" ===
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What say you, Trump supporters? Still think the man who once described himself as "pro-choice in every respect" doesn't retain some residuals of his earlier pro-choice position? Frankly, he's mistaken. DeSantis didn't make "a terrible mistake". Trump just did.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1703412453839622374 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 10:47, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:With the ''Dobbs'' decision, abortion is no longer a federal issue. For a guy running for governor of Florida? Yes, it is a campaign issue; for a guy running for president? No, it is not.
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:Nice try, though. Voters are confused enough without us ''adding'' to their confusion. Our task is untangle that confusion. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:56, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:Abortion in the military is a remaining federal issue; now the movement to abolish capital punishment in the states has gained traction, but not in the federal government. There is somewhat of a parallel there. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:20, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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Trump is selling Pro-Lifers out. I doubt this will play well in Iowa which, like Florida, has a 6 week bill: "if a heartbeat is detected, the baby is protected". HeartBeat Bills have saved countless lives. It's the duty of a Pro-Life President at least to express moral support for such Pro-Life Bills and approve, commend and praise them, as a President DeSantis will do, but Trump did not. I know some Pro-Lifers who are calling this disqualifying, including former Trump supporters. Bad. At a minimum, a 15 week federal abortion ban and encouragement of 6 week abortion bans at the state level can and should be rightly expected from a so-called Pro-Life President. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 11:22, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:The law as it exists now is, a woman in a state with strict abortion laws can join the military and get a free, taxpayer funded abortion. This more an issue at the Congressional level. That's what we need to focus on educating voters about. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:24, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:Here's the danger: if we try to give the impression that voting for president makes a difference or solves the problems in abortion, essentially telling people to ignore who's running for state house or state senate cause the President will take care of the problem, that backfires - as it did for 50 years.
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:We finally got [[SCOTUS]] stacked to overturn ''Roe v. Wade''; the rules of the game have changed. Now we need a focus on state and federal legislators, not the Executive so much as has been the habit for 50 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:31, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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::If you want to thank anyone for overturning ''Roe v. Wade'', thank liberal communist Democrat scumbag Leader [[Harry Reid]]. He's the guy who changed the rules in the Senate to appoint federal judges with a simple 51 vote majority. That untangled the Gordian Knot that existed for half a century. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:36, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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::It was an historical fluke that made it possible, and [[Glitch McConnell]] - give him credit - he seized upon it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:39, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:The problem with DeSantis remains: every indication is that he's part of the controlled opposition, the [[uniparty]], a [[deep state]]r. And the more he tries, the more he gets exposed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:48, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:IOWs, the Heart Beat bill issue at the Presidential level, is a deceptive, bogus issue.
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:There are way more important Presidential issues that need to be focused on, for example taxpayer-funded Nazis. Discussion of Heart Beat bills is a deliberate distraction from actual issues only a president can deal with. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:53, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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We need 2 Terms of a President DeSantis, he will undo all the damage done by Biden and Obama, and turn the Courts in a Conservative Direction, perhaps forever. That's how you win the Culture War once and for all, not drag it on for 50 years more. Then, there are other reforms needed at the federal and state level, and those can be done in time. I repeat: 15 week minimum at federal level, encouragement of 6 week Heartbeat Bills from the Presidential Pulpit. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 11:54, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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DeSantis is faithful to his Conservative Base. Trump sells out in order to be a people-pleaser and to get some more Dem chums/friends.[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 11:56, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:The culture wars are a bottom-up issue, fought out in each individual's heart. Not top down. (In this sense, LT has somewhat of a grasp). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:58, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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::The fact that the pro-life movement is resorting to federal legislation to further its ends (which are honorable by all means) demonstrates its failures at the individual level. They failed to bring the new generation into repentance and out of the pagan ritual of sacrificing children to Moloch, and then expect the federal government to step in and fix the cultural problem they bungled. Instead of sufficiently convincing everyday people in their daily lives that unborn children are valuable individual human lives, and having failed to raise children to be sufficiently conscientiously moral people, they start scrambling upon finding out that society is not as godly as they hoped.
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::What can I say at the end of the day? The foremost leaders failed—they ran ridiculously weak campaigns. Had they truly had the zeal to fight for unborn life, they would've continued, without apology and in righteous anger, compared abortion providers to KKK mobs and Nazis, as many have done. They would've continued to unconditionally castigate the pro-abortion movement as nothing more than a low-grade mob of occultist child-sacrificing bums no better than Nazis.
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::It is my opinion that the leaders of the "conservative movement" have failed the average, devoted moral, socially conservative Christian on purpose—they knew how incompetent they were, and failed on purpose because they serve a higher order that is not of God but of their father the devil. I already explained the thesis/antithesis deception to you guys; try figuring out the puzzle here! —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 12:10, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:::Huh? "pro-life movement is resorting to federal legislation". Nishant is the only talking such stuff. I can't think of single legislator seriously pushing any federal legislation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> See Nishant, you even got LT confused now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:15, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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::::Alright, to my admission, perhaps I typed too quickly and shouldn't have added "federal" in there. My emphasis is that the pro-life movement is focusing heavily on legislative action to complete what they miserably failed. Now, will you at least address my at-large point as well instead of gleefully harping on a single mistake I made? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 12:17, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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Trump needs to give his heart to God. He needs contrition and humility and needs to say: "I'm sorry, Lord Jesus, I've sinned, by denying that Your unborn babies with beating hearts are human beings entitled to all human rights and legal protection".
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Those with born again and regenerate hearts who know that Truth, and even some Secular Pro-Lifers who do, have every right to expect a Government as Good as the People, and a Pro-Life President who shares their Conservative Pro-Life Values, not "pro choice in every respect". [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 12:01, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:Yeah, Trump is too arrogant to confess his sins and obtain a genuine heart of righteousness. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 12:10, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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::How do you know? Are you God? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:17, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:::"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." (Matthew 7:20) Also, if you have the spirit of prophecy, which is the testimony of Jesus (Rev. 19:10), you should be able to gradually see clearly the larger game here. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 12:19, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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::::''Simon, I have somewhat to say unto you...'' Simon, by her fruits, knew what manner of woman she was. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:24, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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=== Ages of Supreme Court Justices: Conservative Justices nearing retirement, a 2 Term President could appoint 2 or 3, perhaps 4 ===
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Here are the ages of the Supreme Court Justice. Important to watch. Both Sotomayor and Roberts will cross 75 by 2032, Thomas and Alito 80.
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"What are the ages of Supreme Court justices in 2023?
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From oldest to youngest, the ages of the current Supreme Court justices are:
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Justice Thomas, 75
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Justice Alito, 73
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Justice Sotomayor, 69
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Chief Justice Roberts, 68
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Justice Kagan, 63
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Justice Kavanaugh, 58
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Justice Gorsuch, 55
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Justice Jackson, 52
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Justice Barrett, 51"
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/02/10/how-many-justices-supreme-court-list-justices-2023/10796688002/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 11:59, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:It's not that easy. A president can't appoint who he wants. He can only appoint who the Senate will accept. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:21, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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