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~~== [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm6DO_7px1I I've got the power!] (Does a couple of slick dance moves) ==~~

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''''''RobSmith wrote:'''''' He gave McCarthy and the GOP every excuse to vote for massive defense spending that will have an inflationary effect. Even moreso with de-dollarization. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:11, September 23, 2023 (EDT)"

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'''LT wrote:''' "McCarthy before resolving his dilemma on whether to support continued Ukraine funding: "whew, this User:Conservative guy has some brilliant essays that will 100% influence by decision, and so because of his revelations I'm going to betray MTG after all!" ''Do you actually believe that?'' —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 22:16, September 23, 2023 (EDT)"

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~~LT, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm6DO_7px1I I've got the power!] (Does a couple of slick dance moves).~~

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By the way, '''I plainly say I am against the U.S. funding of the war in Ukraine''' (See: [[Essay: How long will the war in Ukraine last and what will its likely outcomes will be? A prediction on its outcomes]]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:56, September 23, 2023 (EDT)

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:Yep, I thought I remember you stating that you oppose Ukraine war funding. RobSmith's Ph.D. in quote-mining really shows sometimes, eh? And I'm glad you liked my humorous response to him. :) —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 23:06, September 23, 2023 (EDT)

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::I have been cited/quoted/referred to by ''USA Today'', ''The Chicago Tribune'', ''The Tampa Tribune'', a theological scholar, [[Concerned Women for America]], [[CRU]], [[Penn Jillette]], [[PZ Myers]], [[Secular Talk|Kyle Kulinski]], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Black Lewis Black] and a leading French news outlet.

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::Kevin McCarthy keeps trying to call me about whether the USA should fund the war in Ukraine, but I blocked his number! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:21, September 23, 2023 (EDT)

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~~:::🤣 —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 23:23, September 23, 2023 (EDT)~~

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::::Ah yes, [https://youtu.be/7WlwumGkSec Lewis Black], reminds me of growing up in Wisconsin. Everything he says is true. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 02:25, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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::::I'd be interested in hearing where Lewis Black credited User:Conservative's work? Was it in the [[Homosexuality]] series?, cause obviously [https://youtu.be/7WlwumGkSec?t=86 Black is a rampant homophobe.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 16:21, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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~~== A request ==~~

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This is [[User: Conservative]]. Andy is going to contact [[User: RobSmith]] about the following matter and hopefully RobSmith decides to change his behavior. But if he doesn't, please contact [[User: Aschlafly]] about this matter should RobSmith persists.

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~~Below is a post I recently made to [[User: Aschlafly]].~~

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~~=== The attacks by a Conservapedia Admin on a current Admin needs to stop completely and if he persists there need to be consequences ===~~

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~~One thing I want to add about the current situation of [[User: RobSmith]] currently attacking [[User: Conservative]].~~

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RobSmith has been relentlessly attacking me via talk pages (and other pages of Conservapedia) and provoking me to respond to him. While this morning I made the decision to totally ignore him henceforth, this is unwarranted. I have brought a lot of traffic and publicity to Conservapedia. And currently, I do work for conservative organizations and assist a leading podcast in a beneficial way by inviting some conservatives. I realize that RobSmith may have all the time in the world to waste vindictively attacking me, but this is very foolish and it needs to stop.

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I updated my bio for Conservapedia and it reflects the work I currently do. And none of it involves the slanderous and false gossip that RobSmith is trying to push such as me allegedly being a bisexual, being a partner in 3-way love affair, attending a church whose pastor is married to a drag queen or being an unethical salesman (I don't even currently work in sales).

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The problem with gossip is that it not only disgraces the tall tale bearer, but it also brings shame to Conservapedia. Recently, a fellow Conservapedian said that fellow conservatives seeing RobSmith's shameful behavior harms Conservapedia's reputation among fellow conservatives.

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And the icing on the cake is that User: RobSmith set up [[Conservapedia:Team CP]] to supposedly help promote cordiality at Conservapedia. Unsurprisingly, only one Conservapedian joined. And ironically, the one Conservapedian who did join, recently criticized User: RobSmith for his incivility. I believe that RobSmith set up Team CP to make himself look good and to serve as a distraction from his obviously uncivil behavior. Well, it's not working as 5 Conservapedians have commented to me about User: RobSmith's bad behavior.

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And if this wasn't bad enough, recently the Admin RobSmith vindictively vandalized the popular article [[Internet atheism]] which has over 87,000 page views created by User: Conservative and removed over 50,000 bytes of content from the article. An Admin is supposed to stop vandalism at Conservapedia - not create it!

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~~Here is my update to my bio on Conservapedia's page on Conservapedia just to make things perfectly clear:~~

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The [[User:Conservative]] account has contributed the majority of content to the extremely popular [[Atheism]], [[evolution]], and [[homosexuality]] articles. User: Conservative's work has been cited/quoted/referred to by the ''[[Los Angeles Times]]'', ''[[USA Today]]'', ''The [[Chicago Tribune]]'', ''[[The Telegraph]]'', ''The Tampa Tribune'', [[Concerned Women for America]], [[CRU]], [[WorldNetDaily]], [[Shockofgod]], [[Penn Jillette]], [[PZ Myers]], [[Secular Talk|Kyle Kulinski]], Lewis Black, and a leading French news outlet. The [[PNN News and Ministry Network]] produced a video entitled [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3paAT8AO2Gk Viral article deals major blow to atheism]. The book ''Atheist Persona: Causes and Consequences'' by John J. Pasquini, Th.D, cites Conservapedia's [[Causes of atheism]] article several times. [https://books.google.com/books/about/Atheist_Persona.html?id=TaTsnQEACAAJ] Currently, User: Conservative is a Producer for a politics/social commentary/investigative reporting podcast that is among the top 1/2 percent of podcast in popularity and he has obtained interviews from best-selling authors, academics, filmmakers, political activists and religious figures. He also provides and/or has provided digital marketing services for a company, some leading nonprofits and a church in addition to being a writer who writes content for popular articles on the internet.

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I trust this information helps clarify matters. And by the way, Andy knows these things are true just in case the gossiper RobSmith should wish to contend my bio. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:09, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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~~:Yes, I know. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''~~[[User talk:LT~~|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 11:48, September 24, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~::"An Admin is supposed to stop vandalism at Conservapedia - not create it!"~~

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::Page Protect is for stopping vandalism - not insulating yourself from discussion. User:Conservative has done nothing to use Page Protect to stop vandalism at Conservapedia for 16 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 13:10, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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::Conservapedia is not a [[mobocracy]]. Spamming personal attacks across Conservapedia against another editor to organize a mob is a violation of multiple CP Guidelines. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 13:14, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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:::Conservative has protected numerous of his page creations against vandalism by [[Atheism and evolution|evolutionary]], <s>[[Atheism and homosexuality|homosexualist]]</s> [[Atheism and the suppression of homosexuality|homosexual-persecuting]], [[Atheism and anger|angry]], [[Atheism and sexism|sexist]], [[Atheism and mass murder|mass murderous]], ☭[[Atheism and communism|Communist]]☭, [[Atheism and autism|autistic]], [[Atheism and sadism|sadistic]], [[Atheism and racism|racist]], [[Atheism and homicide|homicidal]], [[Atheism and depression|depression-filled]], [[Atheism and alcoholism|alcohol-binging]], [[Atheism and moral depravity|morally depraved]], [[Atheism and pornography|pornography-addicted]], [[Atheism and penile cancer|penile cancer–ridden]], [[Conservapedia atheism articles|and otherwise]] [[Distrust of atheists|distrusted]], [[Atheism and cowardice|cowardly]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_index/232#Wake_up_and_smell_the_coffee_-_narrative_flip|egg-sucking]] [[liberal|☭liberal☭]] '''[[atheist]]''' [[Atheism and social outcasts|social outcasts]] known for their [[Atheism, divorce, addiction, sexual satisfaction, social skills, dysfunctional beliefs and attitudes, and irrationality|divorce, addiction, sexual satisfaction (well, the lack of), social skills (again, the lack of), dysfunctional beliefs and attitudes, and irrationality]], attributable to their worship of the [[Essay: Does Richard Dawkins have machismo?|machismo-lacking]] [[Richard Dawkins]] and his [[Richard Dawkins' cult of personality|cult of personality]]. Any questions? —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 17:54, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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::::(ec) Well yes, that's what Page Protect is for, not for cutting off contact with the outside world on your user talk page to insulate yourself from criticism. He has done nothing to use Page Protect to defend other Conservapedia articles from vandal attacks, using instead the sledgehammar of blocks, like Karajou, and destroying our userbase.

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::::The point is, as I've said for a long time, CP Admin were never trained in the proper use of Admin tools. And discussion was always squashed by the accusation, "You must be one of them!" if you suggested NOT using Blocks, but rather other tested means to fight vandalism. Karajou and Unser:Conservative just got their jollies playing whack-a-mole. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:02, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::Meanwhile, you decided to block me last week for an hour, delaying an important page creation, not to mention your block of me a few months back amidst a dispute over the [[National Socialism]] article, doing nothing but to drive me out of the site because your own vendettas are more important. Karajou-baiting won't successfully facilitate you getting away with your debauchery anymore, RobSmith. You fooled me once over two years ago, but not anymore. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 18:07, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::If you go way back to the founding, you will find User:Conservative even Locked discussion pages on article mainspace and Essay talk to avoid criticism or suggestions. When he was forced to open them up, he resorted to Deletion of Talk pages. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:04, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::Yeah, coming from you of all people, who removed my comments for disagreeing with you. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 18:07, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::I rarely, rarely do that. But my judgement was you we being disruptive and trolling in an important discussion. You got a 10 minuite block, and if there was problem as time allowed, we could discuss your intrusion.

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::::::::It get's tricky; sometimes two editors are in the midst of an exchange, and the habit CP has allowed since the beginning is for anyone to walk in a pee all over the carpet. That needs to stop. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:11, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::Okay, I see your point. Still not going to side with you over Conservative at this point though; since you're supposed to be a realist, I recommend catching up on the latest research into the Putin–U.S./Nazilensky/Biden/Sodomite/globalist/Russophobic/establishment/neofascist war in Ukraine instead of spending more time on a hopeless cause of trying to convince me otherwise. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 18:16, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::The [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3ALT one hour block was escalatory], cause you obviously didn't get the message in two earlier 10 minute blocks. I don't remember the particular circumstances, but it's my habit to reduce an extended block like that to "Time served" once I complete my Admin actions. I apologize, but you should know where and '''when''' to stick you nose in, and it's not always immediately to pile on when some big blow up occurs.

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::::::::::Not to say you don't have the right to pile on or stick your nose in, but timing is everything, if you wish to be effective. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:22, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::Alright then, I'll try to keep that in mind. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 18:23, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::::Good. I'm training you to be an effective and fair Admin someday (if I had my druthers, it would be now and we could work together, but CP hasn't had a new Admin in over a decade). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:26, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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:Rule of thumb: Think "Will this comment potentially earn me a 10 minute block?" If so, wait 10 minutes. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:41, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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::Let me explain it this way: sometimes as an Admin you need to perform two functions at once, for example, post a reply as well as perform an Admin function, like revert/page protect, etc., and you have an ordinarily good faith editor acting hastily. That's what the 10 minute block is for. Sure, it's a reprimand, but it's not like a lifetime block or anything. A one hour block is more disciplinary, "Go stand in the corner and think about what you have done."

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::You have to see things from other's perspective, like "this guy is just getting a little too excited about a fight breaking out", etc. The Admin or Moderator's task is to keep things running smoothly with a level head. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 23:00, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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~~===Digression on Admin actions===~~

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What still gets my goat is when Karajou blocked Ace McWicked's sockpuppet registered under the name [[User:Stupid]]. And Karajou still couldn't figure it out, that if left Stupid alone, he never would have had to deal with the problem of sockpuppets again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:54, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

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~~==Lol==~~

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Still thinking about himself. More [[narcissistic personality disorder]]. "[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Gossip&curid=23447&diff=1986706&oldid=1986586 high fliers in an organization"!]. Lol!. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 11:03, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

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~~==Just out of curiosity==~~

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What would make your think Machiavelli is liberal (other than you're trying to make CP look like the Babylon Bee or RW)? Have you been talking with User:Conservative too much? That can do strange things to your mind. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 19:16, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

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:Well, based of descriptions of Machiavellianism being unscrupulously manipulative, it sounds like a liberal trait. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Monday, 19:22, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

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::Maybe CP is wrong. Personally, I think it's kinda ridiculous, but I didn't want to revert without hearing what you have to say, so I'll leave it to you. Again, personally, if you think the average [[conservative]] student has an IQ of 80, and should stay that way, leave it in. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 20:27, September 25, 2023 (EDT)[[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 20:26, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

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:::Alright, to my honest admission, that at least partially was just me mildly trolling. You can revert if you want. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 21:10, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

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::::No, you gotta do it yourself (that's the mark of a good Admin, get people to undo their own mistake). Otherwise you make me look like an intolerant strongarm dictator (my middle name is not Karajou, ya know).

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::::In the future when somebody's reviewing the history, they'll say "Ah, this guys a trouble maker, and an Admin had to revert him", but if you do it yourself, they'll think "It was a good faith error and he had enough sense fix it himself". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 21:41, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::Sorry for the delay - I got some idiot trying to hack now (Jeez, I wonder who it is?) He don't know who or what he's messing with. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 22:14, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::No worries. I restored the earlier version. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 22:21, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::Good Moderator work - that's how it's done - independently (although I have no objection to whether the template is there or not. Advice: just don't make it personal between you and whatever editor you had to admonish). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 14:41, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::Maybe we should create a [[Good Moderator Award]] for people who know how to and can moderate discussions. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 14:44, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::[EC] In the case of "ConwayIII," my current severity of discipline in a sense serves to balance out my past advocacy for his presence on this site; if you recall two years ago, Conservative sought to ban him for good, though at my diligent urging, he was allowed to stay. However, if he is going to stay, he needs to learn, at least while editing anything on this site, how to abide by virtuous conservative principles and not the low-level characteristics of peak ☭[[liberal]]☭ traits. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 14:46, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::As to User:Conservative, he hasn't figured out yet that the 70,000 user accounts he's sought to ban over the past 16 years (or about 4,375 a year or roughly more than 80 per week, or 10 per day, are all the same half dozen users. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 15:01, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::I think there are moments when vandals are actually random degenerate internet leftists and not specifically RationalWiki goons. I recall once seeing Twitter users boast of vandalizing the site. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 15:31, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::The random degenerates heard from Rationalwiki that Conservapedia does not know how to moderate its site - which is an open invitation to vandals. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 15:43, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::::Yes, and the next moment they launch a vandal attack on Conservapedia, they will be publicly exposed as having been in bed with neo-Nazis. Perhaps that's why RationalWiki has slowly avoided mentioning Conservapedia ever since I returned; they know that I have the receipts against them. Even if they go on damage control and delete incriminating evidence from their site, it's still all there in an internet archive ~~for anyone to find and see. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 15:46, September 29, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~:::::::::::::What about User:Conservative's ideological kinship with Rationalwiki? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 15:56, September 29, 2023 (EDT)~~

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::::::::::::::Conservative and I were inherently reformists on RationalWiki who tried to turn around their site for the better and were blocked for our efforts. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 16:01, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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~~:::::::::::::::I'm talking about his [[Russophobic]] [[neo-Nazi]] [[anti-Putinism]]. He's shared it with Rationalwiki since the beginning. I warned him repeatedly against it, but he ignored me.~~

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:::::::::::::::Now, one can argue that he really doesn't know what he's talking about and only spews anti-Russian hate cause he likes to mess with me and has done it out of [[malicious editing]], to interfere with my efforts to de-[[propagandize]] the [[conservative movement]] and the American public. That's his only defense now against charges of being a [[nazisymp]] and pro-fascist. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 17:07, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::::::::"pro-fascist" Oh, so Conservative is advocating the merging of big business and a centralized government under the control of a nationalized federation of labor unions through means of strikes and sabotage? Wow, I had absolutely no idea until now! —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 18:41, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::::::::Look at his sources: [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:RobSmith/Collection_of_trolling_threads_and_misuse_of_source_materials#Sloppy_research] they are nothing but [[Soros]]-funded [[neo-fascist]]s and [[globalist]]s. He's been warned dozens and dozens of times over the past 19 months, and just reverts or deletes the comments. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 20:14, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::::::::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeYhd6uNMpo&t=1358s Never forget]. And ask, ''How did this come about?'' and ''Why?'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 20:29, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::(ec) I just read you posting at Conway talk; IMO, you don't need to sound like Karajou or User: Conservative, so threatening and heavy handed. For example, the threat of a lengthy block. Best to keep 'em guessing that they don't know what next you may do. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 14:49, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::[EC] If I remember correctly, ConwayIII is nothing more than a sock of RationalWiki moderator Rockford the Roe (who was a [https://archive.md/2VWhi#You_use_to_be_a_Kiwifarms_poster.3F self-admitted] infamous poster on the neo-Nazi site KiwiFarms, which [https://archive.ph/xCy6S he himself called a terrorist group]; yes, by his own admission, Rockford was a member of a terrorist group). I could be wrong, but that is what I recollect from nearly two years ago. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 14:51, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::Don't make it personal or a personality clash - you threaten your own standing by becoming a biased participant. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 15:06, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::<s>Sorry,</s> I believe in firm justice. This is where we simply will have to agree to disagree on the matter of dealing with potential long-time vandals. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 15:30, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::Carrying a personal grudge is not (or can not be seen in most cases) as "firm justice". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 15:39, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::::I am believer of the notion that victims best understand how to serve justice sufficiently. If punishments for crimes were decided by the victims instead of a "neutral" judge (Western society is rooted in morally degenerate Pagan Roman values rather than the Jewish compassion, tender mercy, and justice of biblical principles), crime could be solved much more easily when the next mass shooter is flogged a few hundred times and then publicly hanged. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 15:42, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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~~::::::::::::::''Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord - Heb 12:14''~~

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~~:::::::::::::::Now the way the Canadian Parliament went about it is not necessarily the right way.~~

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:::::::::::::::Sure, I have said tough things about Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, etc. But I am ready to stand before my maker and say I forgive them for any personal grievance. And that what I said was as an advocate for the rest of humanity. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 15:52, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::::::::Forgiveness does not negate the need for justice. Ahab ultimately repented, and still faced the punishment he deserved. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 16:01, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::::::::''“Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?” Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 21:09, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::::::::::Ah yes, one of those verses commonly quoted by theological liberals in virtue-signalling posts implying everyone else need to be more "forgiving" in the sense of disregarding the atrocious records of broods of vipers (Matthew 12:34) and children of the devil (John 8:44) nothing short of enemies of all righteousness. (Acts 13:10) I guess Jesus should've just overlooked everything the Judeans did, eh? —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Saturday, 22:00, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::::::::::Oh, [[Jesus]] was a [[liberal]] now? That's what pocket calculators and smartphones were invented for - so you can keep count of how many times you've forgiven your brother and cut him off (like a gangrenous limb) at the 491st transgression. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 22:05, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::I'm just going to be straight and clear about the expectations they are to abide by if they wish to remain on Conservapedia. Especially since I don't see ConwayIII contributing much, if any substance to the mainspace, the site has nothing to lose if he ends up choosing to get banned. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 14:55, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::As a Moderator or Admin, it's like talking to a child. You can't get out the stick and beat them to death on the first minor infraction. You have to guide them along, coax them along to behave according to principles that are acceptable to the community or society. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 15:01, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::I warned ConwayIII last year when he inserted an inappropriate rape comment. He failed to learn from the spanking, so he's going to get seriously grounded next if he refuses to change. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 15:20, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::You got to do it with a loving hand through a series of warnings, etc., and as I said, "keep 'em guessing". No one has kept Conway off this server for 16 years in his various incarnations. Get to know the guy, he's actually pretty funny, and you can have these sparring contests if you chose to interact.

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::::::::::Again, discipline him as you would a wayward child. Help him. Guide him along to the right path. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 15:39, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::He's made it clear that he's just here to troll with uncivil remarks. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 16:01, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::::Beleive it or not, I welcome his criticism; it keeps me in line and from going over the top. I don't follow MSM BS, I have to rely on guys like Conway to keep me informed what delusional messages the public is being inundated with now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 17:10, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::Aw, man, c'mon. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKarajou&diff=1989388&oldid=1989379 You spoiled the joke.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:44, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::::Oh, so you ''intentionally'' manipulated the placement of your comments to incorrectly portray my reply as an affirmation of ''your'' comment even though (as the timestamp and revision evidence clearly indicates) I was concurring with Conservative. Karajou was right about you. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 18:46, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::::You have to have a sense of humor in this business - otherwise you'll end up being an angry person like them other two. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:49, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::::It's your fault, anyway, for sticking your nose in where it doesn't belong and giving such a simple answer. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:51, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::::::Keep telling yourself that, and let's see where it gets you when Final Judgment rolls around. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 18:52, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::::::It's called "piling on". It may feel good when doing it - until it happens to you (which I'm sure has at RW). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:55, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::::::Piling on, on most websites can be considered incivility and trolling. The three of you are so accustomed to being piled on, that's why all three are so angry, and you're getting your jollies now cause you think you found a victim you can pile on. Your fun won't last. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 19:00, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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~~:::::::::::::::I'm trying to train you to be a good Moderator. You did the right thing today, but again it took coaching.~~

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:::::::::::::::Them two I don't have much confidence they'll ever learn how to Moderate discussions, cause they don't want to be Moderators, let alone a good, practiced, experienced moderator. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 19:06, October 1, 2023 (EDT) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 19:03, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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~~::::::::::::::Please do not engage in victim blaming. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 19:08, October 1, 2023 (EDT)~~

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::::::::::::::And furthermore, generally good admins command some measure of respect from others. By your own admission, mobs of people are [[troll]]ing you, which is a very interesting way to show respect. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 19:11, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::::::GodBless, Can I ask a personal question? [https://youtu.be/VTmrzDA1CKc?t=124 What was your name before you changed it?] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 19:16, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::::::::It has always been MayGodBless. You can see in [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=renameuser&user=&page=MayGodBless&year=&month=-1&tagfilter= the rename log]. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 19:18, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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~~:::::::::::::::::oh, ok. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 19:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)~~

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::::::::::::::::WP, as I understand it, no longer has elected admins. Now they have to be nominated to go to some screening school or something before they can stand for election. Is that right? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 19:26, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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~~::::::::::::::::::I do not see how that is relevant. I have no clue how WP does its admin stuff. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 20:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)~~

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:::::::::::::::::::WP Adminship used to be a popularity contest, CP admin were appointed. One was bottom up, the other top down. Unlike CP, WP soon discovered Admin needed some schooling and training first before being trusted with Admin tools. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 20:39, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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~~== Article creation suggestion ==~~

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I would like to see you or someone else create a [[Modern conservative movement]] article. I would suggest that the article not be an orphan article by having the article be linked to from our conservative article, some of the founders of the modern conservative movement and our [[New Deal]] article (In part, the modern conservative movement was a reaction to the New Deal).

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According to Andy, some of the leaders of the modern conservative movement are listed in our [[Movement conservative]] article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:04, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

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:Don't use the [[Soros]]-funded [[neo-Nazi]]s User:Conservative uses in his [[Geopolitical]] series. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 10:53, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

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::You guys will have to wait until after the Sabbath for me to respond in full. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Saturday, 12:11, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

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::Okay, to respond to Conservative: I am not focused on the modern conservative movement at this point because it's proved an utter failure. Maybe I can still create and/or expand such an article though; since you are requesting it, I'll take it into consideration. And to respond to RobSmith: '''stop randomly calling people Nazis.''' You're being utterly pathetic in thinking that I'm going to side with you in this instance over Conservative, after all those times you also called ''me'' a Nazi/Nazisymp. Who are you fooling except yourself? —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 20:05, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

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~~== The return of Karajou soon? If so, this is awesome! ==~~

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~~[[File:Karajou restoring priviliges as requested.png|1400px|center|thumbnail|I just noticed this. This is awesome!~~

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~~People of Conservapedia I have returned. The hour of your redemption from China/Russia cheerleading is here. USA! USA! USA!]]~~

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~~I hope this occurs soon. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:36, September 30, 2023 (EDT)~~

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:Yep, same here. I just hope he doesn't still harbor acute bitterness towards me. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 23:48, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

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::Perhaps, Karajou noticed RobSmith reverting my edit saying the U.S. Navy is the most powerful navy in the world. This may have caused him to consider returning to Conservapedia. See [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=World_naval_powers&diff=1988599&oldid=1988597 RobSmith's EDIT] of the article [[World naval powers]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:11, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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:::[EC] Hmm, so Karajou was checking a while earlier but not too recently yet to notice my welcome on his talk page? Interesting speculation. I '''seriously''' hope he comes back for real so he can overturn RobSmifascism. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 00:14, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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:::☭RobSmith☭ deceived me two years ago into supporting the anti-Karajou coup, and ever since has began to destroy Conservapedia. The best hope now is a return of Karajou to overturn RobSmithism. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 00:19, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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~~==You know how to fix your problem==~~

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~~Don't make me waste my time doing it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 15:56, October 1, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~Be a Moderator for once, again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 16:08, October 1, 2023 (EDT)~~

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Our [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Civility]] are under attack, again. I've already discussed the matter with the big boss. Do your job right. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 16:10, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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~~==Nishant==~~

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{{warning collapse|reason=Okay, I get it: you believe in the Marxist narrative that Fascism is capitalistic. I'm really not interested in this anymore, so please, for the sake of your own time also, stop bothering me on this topic. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 23:01, October 2, 2023 (EDT)|content=

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So you [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKarajou&diff=1988961&oldid=1988769 brought Karajou back] and chased [https://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/NishantXavier Nishant away]. [https://memes.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/349b0bfd-8ea3-4999-8167-a1ceb2b64c90 Smart move]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 21:41, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:Oh, <big>'''I'''</big> brought Karajou back? That credit goes to Conservative, not me. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 21:45, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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~~::Nah, it was your idea. You first begged Andy a couple of times on Andy talk. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 21:47, October 2, 2023 (EDT)~~

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:::"Should we focus on fixing our problems?" "Nah, let's just blame LT for the 666th time." —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 21:51, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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::::Hey, it was User:Conservative who chased you off the last time you went sulking off cause he hurt you feelings. Me & him [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:RobSmith/Collection_of_trolling_threads_and_misuse_of_source_materials#Lacking_empathy discussed it many times], and he admitted to it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 21:56, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::[EC] Yeah, at least Conservative '''actually admits his faults unlike you.''' When I briefly left earlier this summer because of '''''your''''' debauchery, you entirely blamed it on him. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 21:57, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::Well, I'm not the guy with habit or record of chasing off good faith users, unlike User:Conservative, Karajou, and now you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 21:59, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::How daft ''are you?'' You quite literally chased me off the site earlier this summer. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 22:13, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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::(ec) Look at Recent Changes right now; User:Conservative is thrashing about in a desperate attempt to defend [[fascism]] and the [[Haushofer|Haushofer School of Geopolitics]]. I doubt you and Karajou want to go down with him. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 21:52, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:::[EC] "desperate attempt to defend fascism" Where and when did he say anything about a nationalized federation of trade union syndicates? —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 21:54, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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::::umm, trade union syndicates are different from corporate bosses, who are the guys in bed with government. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 21:58, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::Since you're an expert on fascism, '''I thought you understood the fact that Fascism is just like any other socialism''': whether it emphasizes populism or elitism in the early stages, it all leads to elitism anyways. Both Communism and "military socialism" lead to the same end result: centralized, statist totalitarian despotism with no individual liberty. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 22:01, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::Fascism is both socialism and [[capitalism]]; and User:Conservative is glad to have Karajou back to defend User:Conservative's brand of "capitalism". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 22:06, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::"and capitalism" No, it isn't. See, I knew it: you're a Communist propagandist. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 22:12, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::Fascism isn't capitalistic? Why don't you create the essay, [[Essay:Why fascism is not capitalist]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 22:39, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::And you can begin with [[I.G. Farben]] and [[Volkswagon]], and explain how they were founded as non-profit entities. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 22:43, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::If Fascism is capitalistic, [https://mises.org/wire/why-marx-loved-central-banks then Marxism is as well]. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 22:44, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::Margaret Thatcher: "There is no alternative to capitalism", only in fascism, the workers do not rise up to seize the means of production. The workers remain in place, and corporate boss remain in place. The socialist bureaucracy dictates to all what is an acceptable "living wage" and acceptable dividends and profits. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 22:50, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::Yes, you just proved that Fascism is socialist, not capitalist. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 22:51, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::See, you are only looking a fascism from the worker/labor union perspective, not from the corporate board/shareholder perspective, which is were the power given to the state really lies. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 22:46, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::Similarly in Marxist Communism, it's the state that rules in supreme control, not the workers. All the arguments you present along the lines of "reactionary capitalism" to describe Fascism can likewise be used to describe ☭Real☭ Communism. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 22:49, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::We went over this yesterday (or a few days ago) how the Soviet Communists shot the factory managers and bosses and how Mussolini, FDR, and Hitler allowed the technocrats, technicians, factory managers, owners, seasoned professionals, and bosses to remain in place. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 22:53, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::::::[EC] Yes, Fascism retained the "forms and trappings" (as quoted in one of Prof. Veith's lectures) of capitalism but remains socialist. Again, it merely used the tenet of the capitalistic process to ''perpetuate a socialist order''. So no, it's not capitalism. Please take your incessant trolling elsewhere, because I'm not interested in debating this with you anymore after explaining the same points to you over and over. And I'm not going to create a counter-essay in this instance just to feed your ego. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 22:56, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:::::::::::Fascism allows ownership and regulated profit; Communism seizes all property and doles out the proceeds of what's left supposedly to everybody. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 22:58, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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Okay, fine. Don't be surprised if some of your edits on various topics dealing with socialism and fascism get rolled up without discussion first. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 23:03, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:First you accuse me of chasing editors away, and now '''you''' want to chase me away ''again'', eh? Careful what you wish for! —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 23:07, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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::Hey, you demonstrated you do not fully understand what capitalism, fascism, and socialism is. The sad thing is, not being able to discuss it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 23:12, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:::You need to read, [[Schumpeter]], ''Capitalism, Socialism, and Democracy''. It'll change your life. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 23:14, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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:::Nice projection effort, pal. And like I said before, my [[CCP-Japanese conspiracy]] project will be my definite last major one; while I may work on a few other articles, I currently don't intend on many more mainspace edits. Wait till Andy learns that Conservapedia missed out on a lot more meaningful conservative content because a certain incompetent administrator decided to drive editors out of the wiki who end up pursuing more meaningful endeavors in life. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 23:15, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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~~::::Good. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 23:23, October 2, 2023 (EDT)~~

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:::::Without me around, let's see who else will actively warn you of the real crisis coming. You were given light, but refused to accept it, reaping for yourself nothing but woes to come. What are you going to do when the International Sunday Law rolls around? —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 23:28, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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~~== Re that debunked myth==~~

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Quoting a wiseman: 'the simple historic chain of antisemitism - persecution, is testament that the Jews (including from Europe) are linked to the same Jews before the destruction of the 2nd Temple by the Romans.'[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:04, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

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:Now hold on, wasn't the destruction of the Second Temple as part of the mass murder of Judeans the Roman reprisal to the insurrection launched by Jewish nationalists associated with the Zealot sect? —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 23:06, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

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:Also, when it comes to pre–70 A.D. antisemitism vs. anti-Jewish persecutions afterwards, there's an important principle tying to the Torah that one needs to understand, though before I go into the point: please bear in mind that our differing theological viewpoints (I believe you're an Orthodox Jews, if I'm correct?) may be a bit sharp on this particular issue, since I'm a historicist Christian (also a Sabbath keeper, BTW). —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 23:10, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

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~~::First of all. The surroundings before destruction of 2nd Temple are not related to or against my quoted above true statement..~~

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The Romans, for years, have been trying to crackdown on Judaism and made anti practice decrees, as well as banned studies. It triggered resistance. The Romans then applied a siege on Jerusalem for months. The Talmud-Rabbis sought to seek peace negotiations with them, but zealots anti-rabbis (called Biryonim) disagreed and burned down a large storage of grain that could have fed for years... that was the last straw that had weakned the guards of the Walls. (Prior to the fall of the city, a chief Rabbi Yochanan-ben-Zakai tricked the anti-rabbis-Zealots and snuck out to meet the Roman chief and begged him that at least leave the city of Yavne to survive, which he did). Some 60 plus years after the Temple destruction arose such as rebel as by Bar Kokhva. But later on, Bar Kokhva shunned the rabbis and was less God fearing which is why Rabbi Akiva had disassociate himself from him. In any case. [BTW, please note, I'm not taking knowledge from Wikipedia]. BTW the destruction of the 1st Temple was by the Babylonians. And the story of [[Esther]] (Haman might have been the first genocidal anti-Jew) was between the two temples.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])

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:Wow, fascinating historical details: I certainly find the Zealots almost as a near-prophetic typology: just as they were a "fourth sect" of Judaism which led a theocratic revolutionary movement, there is nowadays a "fourth political theory" associated with fringe populist sentiments. Also, about the Talmud, I thought its compilation didn't take place until the 3rd or 6th century?

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:Now, yes, antisemitism certainly dates back to biblical times because other nations were jealous of the Jews and tried to destroy them. But there's a larger point here: why did antisemites succeed in some phases and fail at other times? It all depended on whether Israel stayed true to the faith or strayed into apostasy:

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{{cquote|Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: and ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.|Exodus 19:5–6}}

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:And of course, the Israelites would face terrible punishments if they plunged away from the faith, i.e. into Baal worship. In other words, ''antisemitic attacks'' by pagan nations; when Israel remained faithful to God, they were protected, but would face invasions by gentile tribe when they departed from walking with God. As for the reason behind antisemitism for the past two millennia... you can probably guess what my theological views on this are. And please know that I don't say all this to spout polemicist invective; I state this particular matter with a sobering approach.

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:Oh yeah, and since you're an Orthodox Jew, I'd be very eager to understand more about the reasons why modern-day Judaism rejects Jesus as the Messiah. How about a debate page on this? (don't worry, I'll moderate it the best I can to keep out any potential antisemitism) —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 23:37, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

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::The Talmud is based on oral teaching through a chain of tradition till Moses. The first part, which is Mishnah began (to be documented) during the Temple. For example, Hillel, who coined the Golden rule 'don't do unto others...' (Shabbat 31) lived before the destruction. There is a certain tradition a "sandwich" [https://www.chabad.org/holidays/passover/pesach_cdo/aid/117121/jewish/10-Korech-The-Hillel-Sandwich.htm][https://www.haggadot.com/clip/explaining-korech#:~:text=During%20Passover%2C%20Hillel%20would%20eat,of%20matzah%2C%20maror%20and%20charoset.] that Jews eat at Seder on Passover night which is to commemorate the way Hillel used to do it when the Temple still stood.

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Regarding your delicate question, I never said if I'm orthodox or plain conservative but, I will limit to one statement for obvious reasons.. to explain them, one should remember that (core, aka, those that survive the people) Jews did not change their original faith also when Muhammad forced them to and had been slaughtered, 700 of them in Arabia around 1400 years ago. ''Schloss, C. (2002). 2000 years of Jewish history : from the destruction of the second Bais Hamikdash until the twentieth century. Israel: Feldheim Publishers.'' [https://books.google.com/books?id=OV9jKGJzg3QC&pg=PA41 p. 41].

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~~[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])~~

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:Didn't the first half of the Talmud's compilation cover the Oral Law while the second half of the process was a bit different? [http://internetbiblecollege.net/Lessons/Hebrew%20And%20Jewish%20Attitudes%20To%20Abortion%20And%20Infanticide.pdf This source] says that the Babylonian Talmud was essentially influenced by Hellenization.

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:Oh, I think I see your implied point: so Jews view becoming a Christian as straying from the original faith? —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 00:24, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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::The 2nd part which is Gemara is an expansion and discussion of the 1st which is Mishna, it includes also the 1st part within it. Babylonian Talmud had nothing to do with "hellenism".[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 00:35, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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:::I see. Well then, I guess there's a lot more for me to learn! :) —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 00:30, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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~~::::The victory over Greek decrees / Hellenism, which was Chanukah, was at the time of the Temple.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])~~

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:::::Yep, the Feast of Dedication, I believe. As it concerns Greek influence though, if the Talmud's content wasn't influenced by Hellenization, then how come most of Judaism nowadays tends to be pro-abortion? The early Jews spanning to the time of Jesus were adamantly pro-life, and it was ancient paganism that promoted abortion. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 00:44, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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::::::I didn't understand the connection of most Jews to the Talmud. Soros is the exact OPPOSITE of Talmud/Torah. Most are not even religious. But as a whole, Jews who are not religious tend to be left wing, especially because of WW2 trauma. As at that time, the liberals were the anti Nazi. But even today, supremacists help to shift that trend. Every attack by racists, such as venomous flyers distribution in so many cities, push many Jews even to far left. I'm sure that Garland was shocked to the core when he saw the [https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-560w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2022-09/220914-robert-packer-1x1-ac-1108p-c615f2.jpg Auschwitz shirt guy] on J6...

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In general, what was Biden's most powerful weapon to win in 2020? He kept reminding 2017-Charlottesville...He even claimed [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/politics/charlottesville-attack-biden.html it "inspired" him to run].[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])

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:[EC] Interesting perspective; so you're saying that the ideological rift(s) within modern Jewry is almost certainly motivated on the basis of religion? I suppose that makes sense in terms of devout Orthodox Jews leaning conservative while the Reform and Conservative denominations seem much more theologically liberal.

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:Now yes, it's definitely true that throughout history, it was often the "liberals"/"left-wingers" who presented themselves the most as advocates of the Jews against antisemitism. During the French Revolution, I believe it was the Jacobins who portrayed themselves as allies of Jews against monarchist oppression, while the right-wing clerical counterrevolutionaries propagated antisemitic propaganda accusing "the Jews of behind behind revolutions." (well, actually, it was the Jesuits, according to Prof. Veith, though that's another story) And during the 1930s–40s, it was mainstream New Deal liberalism that appealed to Jews in the U.S. while right-wing isolationist Republicans often had... terrible associations.

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:Of course, most "far-right" antisemitism nowadays, while commonly perceived as right-wing, is nothing more than "new" variants of socialism that apply the same old models with different formats of emphasis. The most extreme neo-Nazi type ("National Socialism") are ''socialists'', after all. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 01:21, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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::I'm not saying that you can't find a reform Jew who is conservative but by in large, it is like that. BTW, Poland, where the largest part of Jews were exterminated, before the war, had a very strong large conservative religious population. [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])

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:::Yeah, I know, a politically conservative Reform Jew must be quite the rarity, as I remember reading a possibly semi-humorous article about several years ago. Maybe it was [https://jewishjournal.com/news/united-states/99351/ this one]? I don't fully recall. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 02:23, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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~~==Variety...==~~

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~~Just as among [[Catholics]] you have many conservatives like Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly, but some are very liberal such as:~~

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~~The 1985 founded Progressive Democrats party; Ted Kennedy, the Clintons, Rosie O'Donnell, Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC, etc.~~

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~~Among the influential conservative Jews in the US :~~

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~~Ben Shapiro [https://www.dailywire.com/author/ben-shapiro], the (anti Woke) LibsOfTikTok~~

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[https://www.foxnews.com/media/libs-tiktok-founder-done-hiding-account-want-help-people-fight-agenda.amp] (currently, with some [https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 2.5 million followers]), Dennis Prager [https://dennisprager.com/].[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])

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~~:Ah, fair comparison. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 19:13, October 4, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~== A certain Admin is wasting our time again and not acting in good faith ==~~

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~~LT, I sent DavidB4 and Andy Schlafly this email a few minutes ago:~~

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~~Andy and DavidB4,~~

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Less than a month ago, we had an "Articles for Deletion" vote against RobSmith being able to delete one of my essays and RobSmith lost the vote 3 to 1 and if memory serves DavidB4 voted in favor of the essay not being deleted.

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~~With Karajou aboard, it will be a 4-1 vote. And I am sure I could get other Conservapedians to vote my way also.~~

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~~Now RobSmith wants to revote. This is unreasonable. He's wasting our time and should be creating content.~~

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~~Sincerely,~~

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~~User: Conservative~~

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~~I am referring to this article: [[Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:28, October 3, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~== Request for your vote at: Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine ==~~

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~~At [[Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine]] please vote in the following manner:~~

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~~'''This is a time wasting revote.''' There needn't be another vote. We already voted on this matter less than a month ago. [[User: RobSmith]] lost the vote by a 3 to 1 margin. He is wasting our time.~~

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Your vote on this matter would be very helpful. Conservapedia is not a dictatorship where a wanna-be tyrant can demand a revote less than 30 days later. Thank you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:12, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

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~~== Bull Connor ==~~

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I was reading your article and wondered why no liberals/leftists have desecrated his grave. And then I found [https://prettysweet.com/bull-connor-grave/ a liberal blogger who said he peed on his grave]. In this case, I was a fairly good guesser. I am no fan of Bull Conner, but conservatives are classier than liberals/leftists. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:19, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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:[EC] Here's the thing about past racist Southern Democrats: the historical record shows that they were leftists, although modern-day liberal propagandists push all sorts of narrative spins to portray them as "right-wing conservatives."

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:Hopefully Andy will like my series of articles exonerating conservatism from the endless charges of "racism" spouted by Leftists. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 14:20, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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::Andy is big on the homosexuality issue at the present time. I think it will ultimately be counterproductive for liberals/leftists because conservatives will outbreed them when it comes to future voters, but the larger issue is that they have sub-replacement levels of births for a variety of reasons. In addition, many conservatives have wised up to indoctrination in public schools and are making efforts to improve public education in terms of preventing some indoctrination and they are also pushing for more school choice. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:26, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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:::Again, just to sort of clarify if I wasn't clear enough before, right now I'm doing what I can to contribute "conservative content" in the realm of studying U.S. history, as a gesture of respect for Andy. So this isn't the same broad subject, though hopefully he can appreciate my efforts nonetheless, because I got a ton of knowledge and research to put to good use. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 14:31, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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I am a fan of history. I have booked historians for a popular podcast that I am a Producer for. I learned about the history of one of the socioeconomic classes from one of the guests on the podcast and found it interesting. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:36, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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:I see; hopefully you find my long history entries here on Conservapedia interesting to read through. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 14:42, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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~~::OK. I think that you are a good writer. Best wishes on your future editing. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:45, October 4, 2023 (EDT)~~

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:::Oh, wonderful; thank you. I may still put in a few extra edits before possibly leaving Conservapedia, after all. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 14:48, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

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::::I sent a message to Mr. EG about your Bull Connor article. It helped answer a question you had for me. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:29, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

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~~== The homosexuality and murders article. You had a great idea ==~~

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I incorporated your material in the [[Homosexuality and Murders]] article. I did some tweaks to it. Let's talk about it. I will around the next 4 days if you want to talk about it. I think you will find it worthwhile. I will explain later. It will help your articles get more traffic. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:57, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

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~~:Sure, sounds good. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Thursday, 12:40, October 5, 2023 (EDT)~~

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::I mentioned to a homosexual activist all of the anti-transexuality backlash going on presently. The activists replied, "It ain't over until the [[Lesbianism and obesity|fat lesbian]] sings!".[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_ain%27t_over_till_the_fat_lady_sings] See: [[Lesbianism and obesity]]. (This is a fake story). :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:38, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

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:::Lesbianism is a different story from the homosexualism of Nazi Germany, by the way. National Socialism was an outgrowth of male homosexuality, particularly in the ''[[Sturmabteilung]]'' (SA). Of course, the SA was an official organization was disbanded, but its members (many of whom were Communist recruits) continued in the Nazi Party.

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:::Speaking of which: if anyone throws the "Nazis were anti-Communist" propaganda line at you, just remind them that Nazism itself grew out of Communism, because [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpuGRO72GbA Hitler was a Communist in early 1919]. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Thursday, 14:01, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

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~~{{warning collapse|reason=waste of my time|content=~~

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~~;Tip: Anytime an author uses a word ending in "ism" it means "you're too stupid to understand, and I don't have time to explain all the nuances and popular prejudices, so I thumbnailed with "ism".~~

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~~:Case in point; in Western literature we encounter "Judaism"; but how often do you see "Christianism"? 17:38, October 5, 2023 (EDT)~~

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:"ism" is a phenomena of language, it draws on popular assumptions within society without the author or speaker having to provide evidence, or details, or even his own thoughts on the matter. It's like a Page Redirect in the hearers thought process, it doesn't require a hearer to think about what is being said and only to draw on past experience and assumptions. When abused, and it frequently is, it is a tool of [[demoagogue]]s. Like Hitler railing against Marxism, socialism, and Judaism. He's not adding anything specific, he's just drawing on popular prejudices and assumptions in the hearer's mind.

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:Fo this reason, as content creators, we need to be aware of some of these basic structures in our own English language. And should be leery about excessive, or misuse, of too many "isms" (it can be defined as an appeal to prejudice), and in particular when defining one ism by referencing another ism (two negatives do not make a positive). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:16, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

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~~::I disagree. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Thursday, 18:20, October 5, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~:::Okay. If you want to sound like a demagogue, no one's stopping you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:23, October 5, 2023 (EDT)~~

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::::People who complain about "-isms" are usually just bitter about not having an advanced vocabulary and solid understanding of historical contexts. Usage of "-isms" can be an indication of historical expertise. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Thursday, 18:25, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

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::''Hold up.'' "Hitler railing against Marxism, socialism..." '''Are you serious?''' So you're now going to peddle the neo-Marxist propaganda that Nazism wasn't "real socialism," eh? What a joke; consider yourself discredited. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Thursday, 18:26, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

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:::No. I'm peddling the theory that people need to be wary of content creators who use too many "isms" in one sentence, And particularly when speaking about definitions of a term. Generally, it means the writer can't explain what their talking about and have to depend on common assumptions in people's mind. As rule, there isn't much be learned from text like taha. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:36, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

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::::You said, and I quote verbatim: "Like Hitler railing against Marxism, socialism, and Judaism." Sure, you perhaps meant a different emphasis, but that was a pivotal Freudian slip of yours demonstrates just how much of a willing Communist-brainwashed shill you are. And I don't care about the rest of your points. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Thursday, 18:39, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

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~~:::::If you read that line correctly, it is a criticism of popular prejudices, which is formed by what other than church and media?~~

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:::::And your previous post provides evidence of exactly my point; "isms" is a linguistic device that triggers automatic redirects in people's minds to their culturally embedded prejudices without thought or focus on what is actually being said. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 19:23, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

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::::Name one ism in recent human history that was not coined by its detractors as a pejorative? All you're saying to readers is, "Look at this big pile of human crap, and let me pile in sone more." Then when they click on the link, they encounter another redirect to another ism lacking in details of make its so erroneous or egregious. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 18:50, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

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:::: Take this as a rule of thumb: isms promote schisms. So you have to consider seriously who your readers and listeners are. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 11:57, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

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~~==Re Talmud on The Flood==~~

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Just to clarify. I hope I didn’t sound as if I refuted that particular case. In that specific case, one of the sins of the generation of the flood was indeed that as stated in Midrash [Vayikra Raba 23] (and that they used to 'certify' it). asides fromm other sins. (I just added a general rule besides that).[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])

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:Ah, okay, I see. And no worries, I think I understood your implied point. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Thursday, 12:40, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

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~~==Hope you're proud of yourself now==~~

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~~'''Oct 1, 2023'''~~

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~~[[File:Hypestat 10-1-23.PNG]]~~

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~~'''Oct.~~ 2~~, 2023''' Karajou reactivated.~~

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~~'''Oct 6, 2023.'''~~

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~~[[File:10-06-23.PNG]]~~

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~~: [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 00:04, October 7, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~==Please comment on my motion==~~

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~~Please comment in support of my motion at: [[Conservapedia:User complaints#Endorsements]]. Thank you, [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 20:35, October 9, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~:You got it! —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 21:37, October 9, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~::Please email me at maygodbless135 AT gmail DOT com at your earliest convenience. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 01:01, October 10, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~== I thought you might enjoy this essay ==~~

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I thought you might enjoy this essay: [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman|Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]].

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~~It's time Conservapedia's articles on Russia and Putin have much greater objectivity. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:42, October 14, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~:Yeah, it was hilarious. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 08:32, October 20, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~== Please vote in this AFD vote ==~~

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~~I wrote the essay: [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]]~~

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~~:Okay. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 08:32, October 20, 2023 (EDT)~~

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:Oh wait, the AFD page was deleted by Andy. <big><big><big>😂</big></big></big> —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 08:35, October 20, 2023 (EDT)

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~~== Another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia. ==~~

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~~Here is another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia:~~

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*[[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]

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~~Am I moving to Russia? Nyet! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:50, October 18, 2023 (EDT)~~

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:Good move. Now let's just start a GoFundMe to send a certain Putin-shilling cultist to Russia. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 08:34, October 20, 2023 (EDT)

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~~==User talk pages==~~

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[https://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Telling User:Telling] is doing yeoman's work for us covering the Hamas war. Please be respectful of his time. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|~~''Give Peace a Chance!'']]~~

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:See: [[Essay: Hitler was a Communist in early 1919]] —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 12:19, October 20, 2023 (EDT)

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~~::Yah, I saw it. Is it more [[Holocaust revisionism]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 12:27, October 20, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~:::No. It's called facts. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Friday, 12:28, October 20, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~== I made updates to my essay at: Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are? ==~~

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~~''See also:'' [[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?|Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]~~

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~~{{Clear}}~~

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~~I hope it's a sunny day where you are. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:38, October 20, 2023 (EDT)~~

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:In where I live, currently it may be sunny most of the time, but the weather has waxed cold just as the inhabitants of this planet. (Matthew 24:12) But it is a sign that the Lord is returning soon, and will destroy the second beast of Revelation and all its abhorrences, for the United States of America that murdered millions of unborn children and overthrew democratic regimes is to face judgment at long last! —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Sunday, 20:12, October 21, 2023 (EDT)

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~~== I read your essay on Hitler/communist ==~~

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~~I read your essay on Hitler/communism.~~

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~~It's been many years since I took my two classes on the Nazis so I am not the ideal person to critique your essay. And unfortunately, I don't have the time to read up on the Nazis/Hitler right now.~~

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~~But I do know that the Nazis were politically left of center and not for free market capitalism. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:56, October 25, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~:Oh, I'm not even ''done'' with my essay yet. And thanks for reading it!~~

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:Um, ''left of center''? I both politely and strongly disagree. The Nazis were and are far-left: their economics are full-on Socialist, as is their general outlook, because they are racial collectivists. On social issues, they are far-left as well, because they support eugenics, welfare programs, abortion for the "unfit," and have long been associated with sexual degeneracy; it's no surprise that countless neo-Nazis have been arrested and charged for sex abuse crimes, with some openly advocating pedophilia (including RationalWiki administrators Michael Coombs and Nathan Larson).

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:Hitler was a sexually degenerate gay prostitute and Communist revolutionary; Goebbels was a Marxist; Schreck, a key leader of the SS, was also a Bavarian Communist; hundreds of thousands of SA members were Communist recruits. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 19:38, October 25, 2023 (EDT)

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:On the issue of abortion, Leftists like to point to Hitler's decree banning abortion among "Aryan" women as alleged proof of the Nazis being "anti-abortion." And when confronted with the fact that the Nazis forcibly aborted countless children, they say, "it was only for eugenicist purposes because they were anti-choice and right-wing."

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:However, the Nuremberg prosecutors would ''strongly'' [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Human_Rights_and_the_Unborn_Child/WvGwaXEKIAIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=nuremberg+trials+abortion&pg=PA186&printsec=frontcover beg to differ with the contemporary Leftist narrative]. In the minds of ''true'' Nazi hunters, what mattered in the prosecution of war crimes was that the Nazis actively promoted abortion in occupied Eastern Europe. At the end of the day, it's very simple: if you murder one person and not another, you're still a murderer. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 19:43, October 25, 2023 (EDT)

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~~==Invitation==~~

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You are invited to join a true conservative organization at: [[Conservapedia:CP Civility Association]]. Please sign up. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 12:12, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

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~~==Request==~~

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Would you be able to fulfill my request at [[CP:IUR]]? I think it would make a more fitting image to place at [[Vladimir Putin]]. Thanks in advance. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 11:26, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

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:Can you show me the exact web page where the image is used? That way, I can evaluate if the (presumed) copyright holder gives enough implied permission for me to upload the picture. Oh, and this reminds me, I believe RobSmith nowadays will disregard copyright permissions, and even uploaded pictures from the Associated Press, which CP:IUR specifically states is prohibited. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 11:28, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

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::Wait, we have to worry about copyright???? I got the impression from a certain senior administrator's actions that we can just upload whatever we like. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 11:31, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

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:::Hmm, come to think of it, RobSmith definitely has skirted the Conservapedia uploading rules surrounding copyright because "fighting the Ukronazis" has become a ''license'' (maybe no pun intended) to break any rule you don't like... apparently. Three years ago, the uploading parameters were definitely much more strictly regulated, particularly with the tech expert DavidB4 processing most of CP:IUR. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 11:34, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

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~~==Question==~~

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Hi again. As a hypothetical question, would you be offended if I created a thread with the heading "User:LT is a superb editor"? A certain someone told me that putting a username in a subheading is always [[bad faith editing]]. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 15:00, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

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:Of course not! RobSmith is just an idiot. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Tuesday, 15:07, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

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~~==User:LT is a fantastic editor==~~

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User:LT is a fantastic editor. He creates conservative content. Furthermore, his use of the block button is just and fair. He blocks [[racist]]s on sight, but does not attempt to censor [[good faith]] editing or discussion. For instance, he would never block me for creating a thread with the heading "User:LT is a fantastic editor" because of a rule he invented to [[censor]] discussion. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 15:19, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

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== China got a trick and not a treat in October - manufacturing shrinks. Russia, which is a big seller of oil to China, is not going to be happy about this matter. Russia's interest rate doubles and is now 15%. Russia's ruble is having PROBLEMS ==

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~~On October 31, 2023, I found out that China got a trick and not a treat in October - manufacturing shrinks. Russia, which is a big seller of oil to China, is not going to be happy about this matter.~~

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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBqhi1N0U2Q China Latest: Manufacturing Unexpectedly Shrinks, Services Miss Estimates]

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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvcRfYeFi4w CHINA Manufacturing CRASHES in October as Output Unexpectedly Shrinks & Economic Problems Continue]

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~~'''This means trouble for Russia may soon be on the horizon:'''~~

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*[[Essay: Russia's economy and gas and oil profits will be BADLY damaged when China's economy declines]]

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~~'''The ruble is turning to rubble:'''~~

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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS4FOtzQo1o RUSSIAN Ruble Collapse Panic Continues as Russia DOUBLES Interest Rates to 15%]

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~~It looks like my knowledge of international politics and economics is better than someone claims! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:12, November 1, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~== Message ==~~

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~~Have you seen my new entry at Andy's talk page? [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 09:28, November 1, 2023 (EDT)~~

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:Yeah, but Andy hasn't responded on his talk page for a while, almost certainly due to constantly seeing it bombarded with disputes he personally tries to avoid, hoping the mess cleans itself up. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 09:29, November 1, 2023 (EDT)

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::True, but as long as "he who shall not be named" continues carrying on as he has with impunity, it unfortunately won't clean itself up and it'll most likely require Andy's intervention. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 09:32, November 1, 2023 (EDT)

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:::The question is whether Andy ''will'' intervene at the end of the day; there's ongoing pressure, but that's all I'm going to say here. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|Rev. 22:13]]''''' Wednesday, 09:37, November 1, 2023 (EDT)

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*[[Conservapedia:Sysop complaint documentation]] is for documentation. Read the instructions. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']] 17:40, November 2~~, 2023 (EDT)~~

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~~== Your vote is requested: I proposed a rewording of the first sentence of the CP Civility Association pledge ==~~

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~~Please know if you approve of the [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:CP_Civility_Association&oldid=2000774 THIS REWORDING] of the [[Conservapedia:CP Civility Association~~]] ~~pledge so the first sentence flows better.~~

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~~Let me know as soon as possible [https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia_talk:CP_Civility_Association#Proposed_rewording_of_the_first_sentence_of_the_CP_Civility_Association_pledge HERE].~~

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~~Thank you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:31, November 3, 2023 (EDT)~~

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Don't forget to thank User:Conservative for adding 13 days to your block. Originally it was set to expire on Nov 8, but User:Conservative extended it out to Nov 19. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']] 11:33, November 15, 2023 (EST)

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