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→A more realistic account of the Trump-Putin phone call [https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/putin-trump-phone-call-deadend-afu]
:''[https://www.rt.com/news/617871-trump-putin-phone-call/ Negotiations between Russia and Ukraine will begin ‘immediately’]'':
:''[https://www.rt.com/news/617871-trump-putin-phone-call/ Negotiations between Russia and Ukraine will begin ‘immediately’]'':
:Each will submit a separate, written proposal of what they deem necessary for a ceasefire. However, read the fine print: there is no deadline on submitting the proposals. That's why accusations of Putin stalling are [[BS]], cause the stall tactic is a joint agreement between Trump & Putin. Anything Trump, Rubio, Zelensky or the global & US media propaganda apparatus says about Putin "stalling" is [[BS]]. Trump essentially told Putin to go ahead and take [[Odessa]], but please be quick about it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 08:00, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
:Each will submit a separate, written proposal of what they deem necessary for a ceasefire. However, read the fine print: there is no deadline on submitting the proposals. That's why accusations of Putin stalling are [[BS]], cause the stall tactic is a joint agreement between Trump & Putin. Anything Trump, Rubio, Zelensky or the global & US media propaganda apparatus says about Putin "stalling" is [[BS]]. Trump essentially told Putin to go ahead and take [[Odessa]], but please be quick about it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 08:00, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
==== Likelihood of peace agreement or ceasefire agreement ====
*[https://polymarket.com/event/russia-x-ukraine-ceasefire-in-2025 Russia x Ukraine ceasefire in 2025?], Polymarket: As of May 20, 2025 the odds are 50%.
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpdp6WKotvk John Mearsheimer - Ukraine's Last Chance for Peace?], As of mid May 2025 Mearsheimer still thinks peace agreement is unlikely to happen soon.
The odds of a peace agreement or ceasefire do not look promising, but if anyone could make it happen, it would be Trump.
Also, Putin needs oil revenue to fund the war and the outlook for the price of oil in 2025 is too tough to call. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:15, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
== 'Please die! It's great for us!' "Pro-palestine" activists tells to Palestinan-Arabs ==
== 'Please die! It's great for us!' "Pro-palestine" activists tells to Palestinan-Arabs ==