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:I know we have to come to some conclusion on this. This page is indeed 108 kilobytes long and the Wikipedia article is 99 kilobytes long. Not much difference in size yet this article is far too short in order to properly cover the topic. Rob is right that we should spin off the text from the footnotes at some point. In fact, we should probably create an article dedicated to those footnotes. We will have to eventually summarize more of the sections and spin off the larger issues into related articles. For example, there's no way we can fully address the "censure" debate in this article. It will have to have it's own article. All we can do is keep working at it until we have it right. [[User:Scorpio|Scorpio]] 10:10, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
:I know we have to come to some conclusion on this. This page is indeed 108 kilobytes long and the Wikipedia article is 99 kilobytes long. Not much difference in size yet this article is far too short in order to properly cover the topic. Rob is right that we should spin off the text from the footnotes at some point. In fact, we should probably create an article dedicated to those footnotes. We will have to eventually summarize more of the sections and spin off the larger issues into related articles. For example, there's no way we can fully address the "censure" debate in this article. It will have to have it's own article. All we can do is keep working at it until we have it right. [[User:Scorpio|Scorpio]] 10:10, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
===Silvermaster file Summaries===
Scorpio, last nite I found an excellent source that may be useful in melding some of the Buckley/Bozell material with known Venona spies. Someone created a summary page for the massive FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/CSR/Holdings/Silvermaster/summaries.htm Silvermaster File Summaries]. See for example,
Scorpio, last nite I found an excellent source that may be useful in melding some of the Buckley/Bozell material with known Venona spies. Someone created a summary page for the massive FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/CSR/Holdings/Silvermaster/summaries.htm Silvermaster File Summaries]. See for example,
AMYWAYS.....altogether there are 162 Volumes, and this is just glancing at it since last nite. I have read most of the Silvermaster file, but this Summary [http://education-research.org/CSR/Holdings/Silvermaster/summaries.htm] is the first one page online summary with links to the PDF files.
AMYWAYS.....altogether there are 162 Volumes, and this is just glancing at it since last nite. I have read most of the Silvermaster file, but this Summary [http://education-research.org/CSR/Holdings/Silvermaster/summaries.htm] is the first one page online summary with links to the PDF files.
A NOTE ON WHAT YOU ARE READING: This in the ongoing FBI investigation which opened about November of 1945; the FBI was not aware of Army Signals intelligence Venona decrpyts for yet. This is between disbandenment of the OSS, and the creation of CIA in 1947. And there is no knowledge yet by the FBI in 1945-46 of Soviet theft of nuclear secrets. So what the aims of this investigation are is to simply drive security risks out of the State Department ansd elsewhere, particularly after disbandenment of the OSS, because many were seeking to be reemployed elsewhere. The object is not so much to gather prosecutable evidence, but rather to simply quitely remove security risks.
A NOTE ON WHAT YOU ARE READING: This in the ongoing FBI investigation which opened about November of 1945; the FBI was not aware of Army Signals intelligence Venona decrpyts for yet. This is between disbandenment of the OSS, and the creation of CIA in 1947. And there is no knowledge yet by the FBI in 1945-46 of Soviet theft of nuclear secrets. So what the aims of this investigation are is to simply drive security risks out of the State Department and elsewhere, particularly after disbandenment of the OSS, because many were seeking to be reemployed elsewhere. The object is not so much to gather prosecutable evidence, but rather to simply and quietly remove security risks.
By the time McCarthy is introduced on the scene in 1950, most probably at the behest of Hoover, (1) FBI coordination with Venona began; (2) Hiss and others were exposed publicly; (3) the Soviets tested a nuke & this was public knowledge; (4) there still remained a large number of unidentified codenames and known security risks in the government. So the Silvermaster file reveals ''why'' so many of McCarthy's cases were suspected in the first place, as you can follow detailed surveillance activity by FBI filed investigators in late 1945 and 1946 with others who are now known to be KGB operatives. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:13, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
By the time McCarthy is introduced on the scene in 1950, most probably at the behest of Hoover, (1) FBI coordination with Venona began; (2) Hiss and others were exposed publicly; (3) the Soviets tested a nuke & this was public knowledge; (4) there still remained a large number of unidentified codenames and known security risks in the government. So the Silvermaster file reveals ''why'' so many of McCarthy's cases were suspected in the first place, as you can follow detailed surveillance activity by FBI field investigators in late 1945 and 1946 with others who are now known to be KGB operatives. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:13, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
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