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::Sigh.  Daniel, you know I admire your abilities, and how throughly you document your additions, right?  In today's world, with literally the barbarians at the gate, wanting to destroy Christianity, and the entire western world, do you really think this is the time to hone your skills on how different Christian's are from each other?  Or would you be willing to concede that perhaps for the good of all, that isn't of the greatest import right now?  Don't you think Jesus would prefer us concentrating on the positive, how we are all alike, how we should join together to defeat the agents of Satan? I know I am clear in my heart what He would like from us....I pray you are too.  --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]<sub><small><small>/Admin</small></small></sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 00:43, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
 
::Sigh.  Daniel, you know I admire your abilities, and how throughly you document your additions, right?  In today's world, with literally the barbarians at the gate, wanting to destroy Christianity, and the entire western world, do you really think this is the time to hone your skills on how different Christian's are from each other?  Or would you be willing to concede that perhaps for the good of all, that isn't of the greatest import right now?  Don't you think Jesus would prefer us concentrating on the positive, how we are all alike, how we should join together to defeat the agents of Satan? I know I am clear in my heart what He would like from us....I pray you are too.  --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]<sub><small><small>/Admin</small></small></sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 00:43, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
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:::Thanks for your observations and compliments (though i find many faults in my writings, and Richard Jensen is a much better one), and desire to resist such things as the objectively baseless  moral foundation of atheism which such great men like Mao and Pol Pot operated out of, doing what seemed "reasonable" to them. In contrast, the we who claim to be Christian have the Word of God as out "Golden Compass," and which points due North. But which hates a false balance, and requires objectivity, and exposing darkness. I see that the line "Many Evangelicals in the 21th century denounce SDA as an illegitimate cult with a good link has been provided, which can get them many good resources, and the article is now a well written one, though absent of the historical conflict and change of the 1950's and beyond. 
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But your response here transcends the issue of my edits of the SDA page, and relates to CP as an encyclopedia, and the issue of ecumenism, and is a topic worthy i would like top respond to with some consideration. As it is true that all encyclopedias (etc.) have a certain bias, and spirit behind them, i understand that CP basically operates out  of (if not exclusively) a Christian worldview in seeking to fight a manifest evil that seeks to silence and supplant most all Biblical moral and spiritual truth. And in so doing it can provide information without treating such things as specious attempts of liberal revisionism and propaganda as equally viable ideas, but objectively and informationally expose them. But i think it loses viability when its content is cursory or manifests unwarranted bias, and it loses its conservative credibility when it becomes promotional of a historically aberrant conservative view. 
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:As relates to your appeal to ecumenism on a personal level, and what Jesus would have His own to do, while i agree that honest minded men and women of basic ideological agreement can ''somewhat'' work together against a common enemy, yet it is Biblically clear that this does not allow marginalization of serious doctrinal issues. I think it should be obvious that things such as musical instruments in church is not in view here, but matters that the Bible manifests more weight one. As regards the SDA, there is a reason why Martin engaged is such exhaustive analysis. And while this showed them (at their core) to be closer to historical, conservative orthodoxy than many thought, yet (for one) the promoting of annihilationism is no peripheral issue, and which (for one) makes a mockery of Christ's repeated warning to cut of an offending member rather than to enter unquenchable fire. (Mk. 9:43-48) Not much deterrent factor for Hitlers and Hugh Hefners are just going to be get toasted like the rest. Or justice,  but differing degrees of damnation are in view for eternal punishment, (Lk. 12:46,47) and which i contend is eternal as eternal life.  (Mt. 25:41,46; Rv. 14:11; 20:10)
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:In addition, historically it has been the SDA that has been dead set against ecumenism, considering themselves to be the one true remnant. And while Martin's work (in part) helped the Evangelical SDA arise, yet it is the Traditional SDA that has the upper hand, with the historical position on their side. As for me, i consider evangelical Christianity to be the major foundation for conservatism in America, and which should primarily decide which is aberrant and which is not (but which historical orthodoxy it itself is much deviating from). 
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:Nor do i believe that "Jesus would prefer us concentrating on the positive, how we are all alike" and ignore the doctrinal differences regarding Truth, which got Him crucified, (Jn. 19:7) even if circumstances require some common unity. While i am sure Jesus was basically doctrinally unified with Pharisees on moral laws, (Mt. 23:2) in contrast to homosexual Caesars, yet Jesus still reproved their false doctrine, even about extra Biblical laws against washing, (Mk. 7) and His Spirit places a priority on doctrine (1Tim. 4:16) and commands contending for the faith. (Jude v. 3) While Christians would vote for a true conservative Mormon or an Orthodox Jew against a real liberal like Ted K., we cannot say we are all brethren.
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Finally, my intent on the SDA was not to hone my skills on how different Christians are from each other,  but to provided balance and refutation to an extremely brief and biased entry which was allowed to be that way, and which gave virtually no real historical information, but served as a infomercial for a church. It thus needed balance, and more pertinent history, and apart from some links necessitated by the one sided versions of the same,  i proved informational history of a most notable conflict, and the evangelical perspective. I pray the prayer of Martin and many other concerned Christians in this regard may yet be answered. Meanwhile, Richard is a gifted and learned writer, and the SDA is far far better than it originally was, so praise God for that, and i will tell Richard i am sorry Richard got some of my overflow of grief from its original state.[[User:Daniel1212|Daniel1212]] 13:41, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
    
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