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:::less than half the deaths were in combat; most were flu. The Allies had rather higher rates. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 10:45, 6 January 2010 (EST) | :::less than half the deaths were in combat; most were flu. The Allies had rather higher rates. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 10:45, 6 January 2010 (EST) | ||
::::I agree that the Spanish flu of 1918 killed something over half of the US troops that died overseas, but it still doesn't diminish the fact that America lost over 50,000 killed in action post-Michael offensive with a relatively smaller section of the front to cover. Their biggest engagements were in the second half of the second Marne, Saint-Mihiel, and the Meuse-Argonne offensive of which only the last of which was an attack upon a well entrenched and armed force, and that being the bloodiest battle in American history. Lastly, to the commonwealth forces credit, they refrained from intentionally sending troops into battle during the days when the armistice of 1918 was being discussed, while French and American troops, seeking revenge and glory respectively, were still sending troops over the top.--[[User:JasonN|JasonN]] 09:49, 7 January 2010 (EST) | ::::I agree that the Spanish flu of 1918 killed something over half of the US troops that died overseas, but it still doesn't diminish the fact that America lost over 50,000 killed in action post-Michael offensive with a relatively smaller section of the front to cover. Their biggest engagements were in the second half of the second Marne, Saint-Mihiel, and the Meuse-Argonne offensive of which only the last of which was an attack upon a well entrenched and armed force, and that being the bloodiest battle in American history. Lastly, to the commonwealth forces credit, they refrained from intentionally sending troops into battle during the days when the armistice of 1918 was being discussed, while French and American troops, seeking revenge and glory respectively, were still sending troops over the top.--[[User:JasonN|JasonN]] 09:49, 7 January 2010 (EST) | ||
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Revision as of 19:11, August 31, 2010
Improve?
Are we still doing the article improvement drive? This article says nothing about the events that led up to the war, or Wilson's 14 points plan. DanH 18:34, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
Russian Revolution
"the October Revolution ended any hopes for democracy within the former Tsarist territories for another two generations" - I would suggest it ended hopes until 1923 and the death of Lenin, when Russia seems to be on the verge of becoming a social democracy. Then, alas, Stalin won control. - Stevendavy
- Hope wasn't lost until Trotsky was kicked out. GodlessLiberal 14:54, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
Global war?
"It was the first global war in history." It wasn't a global war. It was a European war. Blaise 18:07, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
Blaise; there were engagements in the Middle East, West Africa, the Pacific. The only continent not to be involved was South America. and I am not too sure about that. The last full-scale mass cavalry charge in history took place at Beersheba in the Holy Land in October 1917...by Australians would you believe! It was bloody global, mate!AlanE 22:19, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
- All continents except Antarctica were involved
- Here is the full list
Australia
Entered war together with Britain on 4 August 1914
Austria-Hungary
Declared war with Serbia on 28 July 1914
Declared war with Russia on 6 August 1914
Declared war with Belgium on 28 August 1914
Declared war with Portugal on 15 March 1916
Belgium
Invaded by Germany on 3 August 1914
Bolivia
Severed relations with Germany on 13 April 1917
Brazil
Severed relations with Germany on 11 April 1917
Declared war with Germany on 26 October 1917
Bulgaria
Declared war with Serbia on 14 October 1915
Declared war with Romania on 1 September 1916
Canada
Entered war together with Britain on 4 August 1914
China
Severed relations with Germany on 14 March 1917
Declared war with Germany on 14 August 1917
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 14 August 1917
Costa Rica
Severed relations with Germany on 21 September 1917
Declared war with Germany on 23 May 1918
Cuba
Declared war with Germany on 7 April 1917
Ecuador
Severed relations with Germany on 8 December 1917
France
Invaded by Germany on 2 August 1914
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 12 August 1914
Declared war with Turkey on 5 November 1914
Declared war with Bulgaria on 16 October 1915
Germany
Declared war with Russia on 1 August 1914
Declared war with France on 3 August 1914
Declared war with Belgium on 4 August 1914
Declared war with Portugal on 9 March 1916
Greece
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 27 June 1917
Declared war with Bulgaria on 27 June 1917
Declared war with Germany on 27 June 1917
Declared war with Turkey on 27 June 1917
Guatemala
Declared war with Germany on 23 April 1918
Haiti
Declared war with Germany on 12 July 1918
Honduras
Declared war with Germany on 19 July 1918
Italy
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 23 May 1915
Declared war with Turkey on 21 August 1915
Declared war with Germany on 28 August 1915
Declared war with Bulgaria on 19 October 1915
Japan
Declared war with Germany on 23 August 1914
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 25 August 1914
Liberia
Declared war with Germany on 4 August 1914
Montenegro
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 5 August 1914
Declared war with Germany on 8 August 1914
Declared war with Bulgaria on 15 October 1915
New Zealand
Entered war together with Britain on 4 August 1914
Nicaragua
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 8 May 1918
Declared war with Germany on 8 May 1918
Panama
Declared war with Germany on 7 April 1917
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 10 December 1917
Peru
Severed relations with Germany on 6 October 1917
Portugal
Entered war against Germany on 9 March 1916
Entered war against Austria-Hungary on 15 March 1916
Romania
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 27 August 1916
Exited war with Treaty of Bucharest on 7 May 1918
Re-entered the war on 10 November 1918
Russia
Declared war with Turkey on 2 November 1914
Declared war with Bulgaria on 19 October 1915
San Marino
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 3 June 1915
Serbia
Declared war with Germany on 6 August 1914
Declared war with Turkey on 2 November 1914
Siam
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 22 July 1917
Declared war with Germany on 22 July 1917
Turkey
Declared war with Romania on 30 August 1916
Severed relations with United States on 23 April 1917
United Kingdom
Declared war with Germany on 4 August 1914
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 12 August 1914
Declared war with Turkey on 5 November 1914
Declared war with Bulgaria on 15 October 1915
United States of America
Declared war with Germany on 6 April 1917
Declared war with Austria-Hungary on 7 December 1917
Uruguay
Severed relations with Germany on 7 October 1917
- This was a global war Samlake 20:25, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
- The first global war was the Seven Year's War, according to Winston Churchill. I am inclined to believe him.--JWeatherman 10:01, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
American casualties
I would like to note the reasons behind the American troops having such a high mortality rate compared to other nations soldiers, but I'm not sure how to add it, partially due to it being rather unflattering on the parts of their commanders. Any thoughts? --JasonN 00:03, 23 December 2009 (EST)
- if in doubt you can test it out on the talk page RJJensen 00:47, 23 December 2009 (EST)
- (In that case...) Unfortunately, the American soldiers lost far more men during their time in the war than they should have compared to their allies. This was due in part to their skeptical view of the way the war was being conducted, inexperience, and an overzealousness to get to grips with the enemy. As a result, they fought in 1918 the way the European troops had fought in 1914. Also, many American officers ordered attacks to take place all the way up to the very minute of the November 11th armistice.
It's rough, but you get the idea. --JasonN 09:21, 5 January 2010 (EST)
- how many battle deaths were there? RJJensen 09:58, 5 January 2010 (EST)
- There were 117,000 killed, and 207,000 wounded. The first time Americans participated on the front lines was in October of 1917, giving the AEF a total of a little over a year in the trenches. Additionally, the AEF didn't fight in many pitched battles against the German army that were comparable to Ypres, Verdun, or the Somme, due mostly to only arriving in large numbers near the end of the Micheal offensive. The battles the US troops fought in were almost (if not entirely) successes, they took more casualties than what would be expected when compared to nations that had been fighting since 1914-15. To their credit though, nobody could fault the US armies bravery in combat. Although, the allies casualty numbers for every nation are inflated by the Spanish influenza.--JasonN 09:57, 6 January 2010 (EST)
- less than half the deaths were in combat; most were flu. The Allies had rather higher rates. RJJensen 10:45, 6 January 2010 (EST)
- I agree that the Spanish flu of 1918 killed something over half of the US troops that died overseas, but it still doesn't diminish the fact that America lost over 50,000 killed in action post-Michael offensive with a relatively smaller section of the front to cover. Their biggest engagements were in the second half of the second Marne, Saint-Mihiel, and the Meuse-Argonne offensive of which only the last of which was an attack upon a well entrenched and armed force, and that being the bloodiest battle in American history. Lastly, to the commonwealth forces credit, they refrained from intentionally sending troops into battle during the days when the armistice of 1918 was being discussed, while French and American troops, seeking revenge and glory respectively, were still sending troops over the top.--JasonN 09:49, 7 January 2010 (EST)
- how many battle deaths were there? RJJensen 09:58, 5 January 2010 (EST)
Add images!
This article could be greatly improved with the addition of some photos. Most (if not all) WWI photos are in the public domain and are easy to find. I don't have sufficient edit rights to upload photos, so I encourage anyone with the ability to please add some pictures! Thanks. EMorris 15:11, 31 August 2010 (EDT)
