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Talk:Counterexamples to Relativity (view source)
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:::::::::::: It is true that there are Einstein biographers who claim that he invented relativity from pure thought, without attention to experiment. But it is not true that mathematical theory came first. Relativistic mass was already being tested in 1901, before Einstein. All of the original relativity papers cited experimental evidence. Eg, Minkowski said relativity was "grown on experimental physical grounds". See also my blog.[http://blog.darkbuzz.com/2011/08/favoring-empiricist-conception-of.html] [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 01:13, 18 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::::: It is true that there are Einstein biographers who claim that he invented relativity from pure thought, without attention to experiment. But it is not true that mathematical theory came first. Relativistic mass was already being tested in 1901, before Einstein. All of the original relativity papers cited experimental evidence. Eg, Minkowski said relativity was "grown on experimental physical grounds". See also my blog.[http://blog.darkbuzz.com/2011/08/favoring-empiricist-conception-of.html] [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 01:13, 18 August 2011 (EDT)
@MaxFletcher: I've never noticed "political effects" of Relativity, at least in Italy.
@Aschlafly: In addition to RSchlafly's answer, let me ask you again (for the third or fourth time, I think): do you belive that the speed of light is costant for every observer or not? If the answer is not, you are ignoring hundreds of experiments that proved it beyond any reasonable doubt. If you don't trust all these experiments, you should believe that not only relativity, but every physical theory is flawed in this way: how can you trust physicists on, for example, quantum mechanics, or any other physical theory, if you think that they falsified so many relativity experiments?
A lot of scientists criticize relativity every day (both special and general). The difference between you and them is that they admit that relativity works rather well under all the actual tests, as it is an approximation of other theories (today untested). Relativity '''can't''' be definitely right, but today works. --[[User:MM87|<font color="#E56717">'''MM'''</font>]]''[[User_talk:MM87|<font color="#FBB117">'''''87'''''</font>]] 08:30, 18 August 2011 (EDT)