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The article states "American heros are men and women who represent American values." It says nothing about a requirement of the person having to be American. [[Saint Paul]] is clearly a hero to millions of Americans. I say we keep him in the examples. --[[User:MatthewQ|MatthewQ]] 21:49, 29 August 2011 (EDT) | The article states "American heros are men and women who represent American values." It says nothing about a requirement of the person having to be American. [[Saint Paul]] is clearly a hero to millions of Americans. I say we keep him in the examples. --[[User:MatthewQ|MatthewQ]] 21:49, 29 August 2011 (EDT) | ||
:The fact the title is american pretty much means they must be an american. If we start including anybody we call heros, this is quickly going to spiral downwards.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:54, 29 August 2011 (EDT) | :The fact the title is american pretty much means they must be an american. If we start including anybody we call heros, this is quickly going to spiral downwards.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:54, 29 August 2011 (EDT) | ||
| + | :: The 'American' can also refer to the them being a hero to Americans. Again, the definition the article uses does not state they have to be American. We should add that requirement, or let [[Jesus Christ]] and [[Saint Paul]] be included. --[[User:MatthewQ|MatthewQ]] 22:06, 29 August 2011 (EDT) | ||
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Duplicate article?
Much of this ground is covered here. BrentH 21:14, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
Proposal
This article is a great idea, but the word "hero" generally is understood to refer to men; the feminine version is "heroine." I propose that the women on this list be moved to "American Heroines" on the grounds that thee article as it is denies the very basic differences between the sexes and promotes competition between the sexes. --LeonardW 21:38, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
- Hero is both a gender neutral and Masculine term, and there is no point in dividing up the article. It would do with some Title change for Plural (Since it's a list of people, not just a person or definition) and because that undercase h is bad wiki form--SeanS 21:40, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
- I'd also recommend a shift to American Heroes (or American heroes, not sure about the capitalization for form's sake). Also, it should be gender inclusive, both men and women, without dividing the page into two factions. WesleySHello! 21:55, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
American
The article states "American heros are men and women who represent American values." It says nothing about a requirement of the person having to be American. Saint Paul is clearly a hero to millions of Americans. I say we keep him in the examples. --MatthewQ 21:49, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
- The fact the title is american pretty much means they must be an american. If we start including anybody we call heros, this is quickly going to spiral downwards.--SeanS 21:54, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
- The 'American' can also refer to the them being a hero to Americans. Again, the definition the article uses does not state they have to be American. We should add that requirement, or let Jesus Christ and Saint Paul be included. --MatthewQ 22:06, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
